Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot: Irresistible to Christian Apologists For All The Wrong Reasons

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.” – Adolph Hitler

I got an email a couple of days ago from the typical swill that congeals at the bottom of the barrel of right-wing Christian Fundamentalists This sub-human scum goes by the pseudonym “Jason Jason,” and was not pleased with an article I wrote some time ago regarding Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. I posted a screenshot of the email on my Social Networks, which was met with queries on the article, itself. It first appeared back in 2010 in a couple of different eZines, and ended up as a chapter in my first book. I promised that I would repost it here, today, and it is the kick-off post to my turn at the SSA Blogathon.

First, The Screenshot…

Here’s the email I got from the illustrious Jason Jason:

Here’s The Article…

It is a common talking point amongst fundamental Christians to attribute the horrors committed by infamous world leaders to atheism, and many times we are ill-equipped to refute those erroneous claims. In fact, in 2010, an Anglican Archbishop named Peter Jensen told his Australian congregation that atheism is not the rational philosophy that it claims to be. He stated,

“Last century we tried godlessness on a grand scale and the effects were devastating: Nazism, Stalinism, Pol Pot-ery, mass murder, abortion and broken relationships – all promoted by state-imposed atheism…the illusion that we can build a better life without God.” He further stated, “It’s about our determination as human beings to have our own way, to make our own rules, to live our own lives, unfettered by the rule of God and the right of God to rule over us…What we’re really seeing, once more [is] an example of the contest between human beings and God over who rules the world.”

Atheist Foundation president David Nicholls says the comments are an act of desperation by the church. Personally, I think “desperation” is an understatement of epic proportions. There are so many things wrong with Jensen’s statements that I had to sit here and stare at my screen for quite a while before I even found a starting point. I gave considerable thought to expounding on the sheer arrogance that a god rules the world regardless of whether or not anyone actually believes in one, the utterly ridiculous notion of a struggle between god and man, or their dogma about not being able to achieve peace, happiness and harmony in our society without their god. However, space being at a premium, I decided to a different route.

First of all, there is no such thing as state-imposed atheism. A state can ban religion, but it cannot ban atheism because it is not a belief, a faith, a set of doctrines or dogmas and cannot be imposed on anybody. Atheism is an absence of belief, and you cannot ban something that does not exist. I have heard the argument so many times from believers who think that atheism is a belief. They compare it to a religion. They say it takes faith. They accuse us of hating god.

Believers really need to find another line of fire, as all of these arguments only serve to make them look like complete idiots, which is unnecessary, as many believers are otherwise intelligent individuals. I will not bother to extrapolate the reasons why these are illegitimate arguments here, as I have already done so in a previous chapter. You won’t hurt my feelings if you fold the page over or otherwise bookmark that chapter to perhaps better arm yourselves for the times when you are confronted by theists who offer them up.

This chapter, however, will deal with the claims about Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mass Murder and Broken Relationships. We’ll start with the people mentioned, and, as far as I’m aware, none of them said “I don’t believe in god, therefore I will slaughter lots of innocent people“. Let’s start with Adolf Hitler…

On Adolf Hitler…

Christians have been trying to discredit Hitler’s faith for decades, turning their eyes away from history books. From the earliest formation of the Nazi party he expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers. He was baptized as Roman Catholic in Austria, attended a monastery school and was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church. He was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ” and his goal was to become a priest. He was never excommunicated or condemned and the church had stated that he was “Avenging for God” in attacking the Jews. It was only as recent as March of 2011 that the Catholic Church finally made it official that they no longer deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus.

Hitler was given veto power over whom the Pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany and forged a treaty whereas the National Socialist State was officially recognized by the Catholic Church.  In a letter to the Nazi party, he wrote

“…this treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism is hostile to religion is a lie.”

He allied with Pope Pius in converting German society and made a deal with the church whereas the church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons, and in turn, Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education. This lead to Hitler enacting doctrines of the Church as law. He outlawed all abortion, raged a death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home.

He was quoted as stating,

The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines, and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today…Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church.”

In fact, the Holocaust grew out of Hitler’s Christian education due mainly to Jews having an inferior status in Christian Austria and Germany. The Christians there also blamed the Jews for the killing of Jesus and the hatred that Hitler fostered against Jewish people began from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany. It is well known that Martin Luther held a livid hatred for Jews and their religion. Luther wrote a book titled “On the Jews and their Lies” which set the standard for Jewish hatred all the way up to World War 2. Hitler, of course, expressed a great admiration for Luther.

The Nazis began to control schools insisting Christianity was taught. They included anti-Semitic Christian writings in textbooks that were not removed from doctrine until 1961. Nazi soldiers wore religious symbols and placed religious sayings on military gear. The official Nazi army belt buckle read “God With Us” in German. They got sprinkled with holy water and listened to Catholic sermons before maneuvers. The Nazis had a secret service called the “SS Reich” that would spy on citizens and if anyone was suspected of heresy they would be prosecuted.

Here are a few quotes from Hitler:

  • We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.” -Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933
  • “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.” -Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922
  • Christianity could not content itself with building up its own altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the heathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could its apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute presupposition.” -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf
  • “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

On Joseph Stalin:

Joseph Stalin was raised to be a Catholic Priest and I remain curious as to why his Christianity is shoved aside in all these arguments. Yes, there is no way to get around the fact that in his early career, Stalin made a vast effort to rid Russia of religion, but that had nothing to do with atheism. It was the only way he knew to seize power of the country.

For generations the entire populace of Russia had been taught that the head of state was supposed to be close to god. At the time in question, the head of the church in Russia was a tyrant. The Russians were already disposed to servility and all Stalin did was exploit these two facts, and place himself in the position of god. Once Stalin was firmly seated in office, he revived the Russian Orthodox Church in order to intensify patriotic support for the war effort.

Stalin was part of a council convened to elected a new church Patriarch. Then the Russian theological schools were opened, and thousands of churches began to function. Even the Moscow Theological Academy Seminary was re-opened, after being closed since 1918.

So, while Stalin was no peach, he was not exactly what you would call a died-in-the-wool atheist. He was more a secular minded religious opportunist, which is a personal character trait. He did not use atheism to gain control, but religious principles that were modified to fit his own, sick and twisted method of revolution.

What about Pol Pot?

Truly a monster, having killed some twenty-five percent of the entire population of Cambodia. Pol Pot targeted not just different religions, but education, science and medicine in his quest for total domination. Now, let’s take a head count of atheists who are against education, science and medicine. Thought so…

Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge were composed of Buddhists and Pol Pot was a Theravada Buddhist. He studied at a Buddhist monastery and then at a Catholic school for 8 years. Cambodia’s communism was influenced by Theravada Buddhism.

Prince Norodom Sihanouk said,

Pol Pot does not believe in God but he thinks that heaven, destiny, wants him to guide Cambodia in the way he thinks it the best for Cambodia, that is to say, the worst. Pol Pot is mad, you know, like Hitler.”

So, while Pol Pot was definitely not a Christian, he was also definitely not an Atheist.

Let’s get on with some Mass Murder, shall we?

Add up the deaths that were attributed to Hitler, Stalin and Pot. Then round-up for good measure. You can safely say that the number is staggering.

Probably upwards of fifteen million. However, consider the following conflicts where the main differences between the opposing factions were and are religion. Granted, some of these conflicts were heavy laden with politics, but those politics had religious beginnings and underpinnings.

In alphabetical order, with later add-ons:

  • Albigensian Crusade, 1208-49
  • Algeria, 1992-
  • Baha’i, 1848-54
  • Bosnia, 1992-95
  • Boxer Rebellion, 1899-1901
  • Christian Romans, 30-313 CE
  • Croatia, 1991-92
  • English Civil War, 1642-46
  • Holocaust, 1938-45
  • Huguenot Wars, 1562-1598
  • India, 1992-2002
  • India: Suttee & Thugs
  • Indo-Pakistani Partition, 1947
  • Iran, Islamic Republic, 1979-
  • Iraq, Shiites, 1991-92
  • Jews, 1348
  • Jonestown, 1978
  • Lebanon 1860 / 1975-92
  • Molucca Is., 1999-
  • Mongolia, 1937-39
  • Northern Ireland, 1974-98
  • Russian pogroms 1905-06 / 1917-22
  • St. Bartholemew Massacre, 1572
  • Shang China, ca. 1300-1050 BCE
  • Shimabara Revolt, Japan 1637-38
  • Sikh uprising, India, 1984-91
  • Spanish Inquisition, 1478-1834
  • Taiping Rebellion, 1850-64
  • Thirty Years War, 1618-48
  • Tudor England
  • Vietnam, 1800s
  • Witch Hunts, 1400-1800
  • Xhosa, 1857
  • Arab Outbreak, 7th Century CE
  • Arab-Israeli Wars, 1948-
  • Al Qaeda, 1993-
  • Crusades, 1095-1291
  • Dutch Revolt, 1566-1609
  • Nigeria, 1990s, 2000s

If you add up all of the lives that were lost in the name of one religion or another, you come up with a staggering figure that is in excess of eight-hundred-million. That’s eight-hundred-million.  An eight, followed by eight zeros. So, even if the believers who are uneducated enough to think that Hitler, Stalin and Pot were psychotic mass murderers because they believed these men were atheists, it is horrifically clear that religious murder wins out.

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  11 comments for “Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot: Irresistible to Christian Apologists For All The Wrong Reasons

  1. Ben P
    June 15, 2012 at 9:38 am

    One quibble although you halfway corrected it later.

    Joseph Stalin was raised to be a Catholic Priest and I remain curious as to why his Christianity is shoved aside in all these arguments.

    As a Georgian it would have been exceedingly rare for Stalin to have been raised to be a Catholic priest per se. He would most likely have been raised eastern orthodox. A quick check of Wikipedia suggests he did attend a Georgian Orthdox seminary at age 16 where he was expelled some 2-3 years later. (cult of personality legend says for distributing socialist literature, seminary’s records say because he didn’t pay his tuition).

    You may consider it a distinction without a difference and that may be true, which is why this is a pretty minor quibble.

  2. slc1
    June 15, 2012 at 9:53 am

    It should be pointed out that the fraction of the population of Central Europe that was killed in the 30 years war was greater then the similar fraction that was killed in either WW 1 or WW 2. It is fortunate that Gustavus Adolphus, Count Tilly, and Albrecht von Wallenstein didn’t have access to 20th Century weapons or the entire population of Central Europe would have been wiped out.

  3. slc1
    June 15, 2012 at 9:54 am

    As Martin Gardner once opined, Dialectical Materialism could be considered a religion as it is a set of beliefs with no evidence.

  4. slc1
    June 15, 2012 at 10:11 am

    With regards to Frankenberger’s religious beliefs, there is no question that, in all his public speeches and writings, he professed to be a believing Christian. However, the question is, did he really believe it or was it for public consumption? In Table Talk, Frankenberger is is quoting as being contemptuous of Christianity. Now the authenticity of Table Talk has been questioned and the English translation has been criticized so it is well to exercise caution in citing it as a reference. However, a more reliable source of information is Albert Speer, who, in his memoirs, quotes Frankenberger as opining that Shintoism would have been a better religious choice for the German people because of its military attributes, in contrast to Christianity which is rather more pacifistic in outlook. Frankenberger was a big admirer of the Shinto concept of Bushido.

  5. left0ver1under
    June 15, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Almost without exception, atrocities throughout history have been the result of one cause: an ideology or dogma that claimed superiority and/or certainty of its views. That’s true of Stalin, true of Hitler, true of the Saudi regime, and it’s been true of christians from the crusades to inquisition to the slave trade to the KKK to Nazism.

    Atheism is not a dogma, and it doesn’t claim certainty.

  6. dean
    June 15, 2012 at 11:07 am

    “Frankenberger’s”

    Enough of this shit: there is no evidence at all Hitler’s original family name was Frankenberger. Grow up.

    • left0ver1under
      June 15, 2012 at 11:28 am

      I don’t know if you’re (unfortunately) familiar with him, but slc repeatedly posts garbage and hate speech along those lines. On most sites and blogs he would have been banned; it’s only because Mr. Singham and others on FtB are patient and unafraid of such idiots that there hasn’t been a ban.

      slc is a troll and attention whore. The best thing to do is ignore it.

    • slc1
      June 15, 2012 at 11:45 am

      Nobody is claiming that the family name was ever Frankenberger. The claim is that Alois, whose birth certificate lists no father and who was baptized Alois Schickelgruber after his mother’s maiden name, was really the biological son of the 19 year old son of the Frankenberger family, where she was allegedly employed as a maid. It should be noted that Maria eventually married a man named Heidler who changed the family name to Hitler. There is no evidence that Heidler was the biological father of Alois.

      • David Hart
        June 15, 2012 at 7:46 pm

        Well, can we not just call him by the name that he called himself, and that everyone else also called him? That would seem to be less effort and confusion all round.

  7. June 15, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    All the times religous people came with this Hitler + Stalin + Pol Pot thing, it amazes me: what the hell are they thinking? Lets take for the sake of argument that HSPP can be put in atheists account. What that is suposed to mean? “In history religious have murdered, lets say, 10 billion, but atheists have slaughtered 20 billion, so religious won?” That’s it? Religious killings are one half of atheists’ so religious are better? Am I the only one who sees this kind of accounting as a sure sign of moral bankrupcy?

  8. NH
    June 15, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    “This sub-human scum goes by the pseudonym “Jason Jason,” ” I think you need to be careful with this kind of language. Especially when you go on to discuss Hitler.

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