Religion Needs To Be Eradicated From Government

“Our gods are dead. Ancient Klingon warriors slew them a millenia ago. They were…more trouble than they were worth.”  – Lt. Cmdr Worf

The annual Christmas whine fest has begun. This is in addition to the regularly scheduled whining that believers engage in about being “persecuted in the United States.” The cry from the Christian camp about “The War Against Christmas!” has officially begun. And, of course, us evil, heathen, baby-eating, godless hordes of devil-worshipping atheists are the ones trying to steal Christmas. It is rumored that we are getting financed by Al Qaeda, and the Teamsters Union is working the docks for us, making sure all the Christmas trees, wreathes and garland we steal is boxed up and shipped out to Mexico, where it is used to decorate the inside of taxi cabs.

Cries to “Keep Christ In Christmas!” are being bellowed from the mouths of preachers, pastors and other pulpiteers as Christmas approaches.  But, when you consider the “data” that is in the bible with regard to the activities of the shepherds who got drunk and started hallucinating, their Christ doesn’t even belong in Christmas. Even if Jesus existed (not), he would have been born in the early spring.  They are unable to cope with this cognitive dissonance, so they dismiss it with a Swansonesque (Sunset Boulevard is still one of my favorite movies) sweep of their hand and happily claim that the day he was born “doesn’t matter.

Sure, why not, right? As long as they can still bitch about cussing, alcohol, cigarettes, sex, marijuana, secular music, Harry Potter, those pesky gays and naked people in general, what’s a little double standard among brothers and sisters? Gotta have priorities, right?

You STOLE Fizzy Lifting Drinks!

It’s very common knowledge that the Christian church has stolen almost every major Pagan holiday, and it is quite ironic that they accuse atheists of stealing Christmas. That’s kind of like calling the cops to report the theft of something you stole.

Easter? Well, considering that Easter was named after Oestre, a Saxon goddess of fertility and of the dawn and spring, Christ has no place in this holiday, either. I wonder, though, would the fact that the word estrogen is derived from her name make Jesus gay?  After all, he rejected women and spent all his time hanging out with other men, and was heavily promoted by the Apostle Paul, who was obviously gay, as well. I won’t even comment about King Saul and Jonathan…

But I digress…

Thanksgiving? Nope, not a religious holiday, either. Neither is Valentine’s Day, and no matter how much believers like to think that the United States was founded as a Christian nation, Independence Day is not a religious holiday, either.

Down With Holidays!

Where our Government is concerned, I vote that there should be no religiously named holidays.  We can keep Thanksgiving, Independence Day, Labor Day, Memorial Day, New Years Day, etc., but I propose we rename Christmas and Easter “Winter Holiday,” and “Spring Holiday,” allowing time off for everyone without the religious connection to government.

The words “Merry Christmas” should appear nowhere on government buildings or publications.

There should be no “official Christmas tree,” and, for the record, it is illegal to put up a nativity scene anywhere on public property.

We Are Devo…

When narrow-minded, ignorant, archaic draconian dogma and doctrine are infused into government; it only furthers our devolution and promotes a Christian revisionist history that actually weakens our Nation.

We’ve got politicians running for office because they believe God told them to, and their stump speeches sound more and more like sermons every day.  Throw in a couple of snakes and a tambourine-wielding believer or two and you’ve got a genuine revival on your hands.

It’s disheartening, really. Pathetic, even, that a vast majority of United States citizens are blinded to how advanced we could be in the sciences, medicine, economic growth and foreign policy if religion were completely eradicated from government in all forms.

The stranglehold that religion has in our government continues to hold us back from curing a plethora of major diseases because the godbotherers in our legislative branch are under the utterly ridiculous notion that stem cells are on par with living, breathing, sentient human beings.

Our country is going broke fighting “just wars.

Our children are dumbed-down by stubborn uber-religious teachers and administrators in our public schools who insist on “teaching the controversy” (read: lying to our kids), and by the ease at which parents can home-school their kids without any accountability with regard to curriculum, testing or attendance.

I won’t even go into the glaringly unconstitutionality of “Faith Based Initiatives” and school voucher programs, or the fact that there are still many states where corporal punishment is still being practiced, all the way through high-school

Do Your Damn Job!

The job of government is hotly debated by Conservatives, Liberals and everyone in between.  In fact, my personal political views vary from one end of this spectrum to another, depending on the topic and data at hand.  But one thing is for sure.  Religion gets in the way of governing. It divides, stymies, cause dissent, wastes time, money and resources.

The United States Government has no business invoking any god, gods, goddesses or anything else even remotely connected to religious belief. Our government is not in place to placate anyone’s religious beliefs, period. There should be no references to the religious beliefs of our politicians.  In fact, the religious beliefs of our politicians should be kept private.

There should be no reference to God in our Pledge, on our money, on or in our government buildings, as part of any State Constitution, in our public schools (except as lessons in mythology), in our national motto and especially at the start of legislative/municipal meetings.

There should be no references to Christian Apologetics (Creationism), the supplication to the Christian gods (Prayer), the theocratic regulation of human sexuality (those pesky gays again), what a woman does with her vagina and/or uterus (Abortion) or the use of naturally growing flora (Marijuana).

In fact, Congress shouldn’t make any laws respecting an establishment of religion.

Wait, that’s already a law…

  21 comments for “Religion Needs To Be Eradicated From Government

  1. the bug guy
    November 27, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Please, please, please! No Bad Etymology 😉

    The Anglo-Saxon goddess that provided the modern English name for Easter is Eostre (or Eastre), as recorded by Bede in his 8th century writings about the people of Northumbria adopting the heathen namebearer of the fourth month of the calander (Eostremonath) as their name for the Pascal holiday. If you look at most European languages, you will see that their name for the resurrection holiday is derived from Passover, the Jewish holiday that is central to the story.

    Oestre and oestrogen are derived from the ancient Greek and are totally not connected. Oestre gives name to the biting Diptera of the family Oestridae, the bot flies. It also gives rise to oestrus, the beginning of female mating cycle, which would be an odd choice for naming a rebirth observance. 😉

  2. LogicWillPrevail
    November 27, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    It’s amazing how many people want to stick god’s nose in where it was never about god in the first place. Thanksgiving, Independence Day, etc. And it’s also amazing how quickly they turn on you when you CORRECTLY point out that Thanksgiving, Independence Day, Valentine’s Day, Memorial Day, Labor Day, etc, were not meant to celebrate Jesus Christ. I have this one friend who constantly asserts that “they’re” trying to kill off god. The biggest threat to Christianity is not atheists, nor other faiths, nor even Christians. It is simple logic. When you brainwash a person into believing in a magical fairy tale, you are denying that person the right of all people, to discover things for themselves. Have you ever seen a scenario play out where some person lies to another person? That other person finds out about it, and it’s worse for the person who told the lie in the first place! My friend honestly believes teaching “Intelligent Design” in schools would not be a violation of the First Amendment because it supposedly promotes no religion. My theist friends are sorely mistaken, and I hope they wake up one day, but am prepared for the fact that they will go to their graves with a limited understanding of the world around them.

  3. rikitiki
    November 27, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    It’s beginning to look a lot like Mythmas
    (sung to the tune of: “It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas”)

    It’s beginning to look a lot like Mythmas,
    Cold and clear and bright
    Celebrating some ancient myths
    With our kin and with our kiths
    While we bask in the Yule log’s light
    It’s beginning to look a lot like solstice,
    Days keep getting short
    Parties and warm drinks abound
    While we wait for the turnaround
    ‘specially if you live way up North
    But they keep saying,
    “Keep the ‘Christ’ in Christmas”,
    And that’s just really lame
    ‘cause if they knew any history,
    Well, the only ‘Christ’ there be
    Is in the god-damned name!

    • geocatherder
      November 29, 2011 at 3:28 pm

      I love it!

  4. jj7212
    November 27, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    “It’s disheartening, really. Pathetic, even, that a vast majority of United States citizens are blinded to how advanced we could be in the sciences, medicine, economic growth and foreign policy if religion were completely eradicated from government in all forms.”

    – Well put! It’s such a simple idea, but we never ever hear it on the news or from political speeches! Are there any politicians who actually say things like this? I’ve no idea who they are… I’d love to find out.

  5. jaxkayaker
    November 27, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    “…the use of naturally growing fauna (Marijuana).”

    Fauna refers to animal life. Marijuana, being a plant, would be part of the flora.

    • Al Stefanelli
      November 27, 2011 at 11:23 pm

      Got it. Thanks!

  6. Nomen Nescio
    November 28, 2011 at 10:20 am

    the whole “easter is named for a pagan deity” thing has always seemed overblown to me, precisely because that only works in english. most anywhere outside the anglosphere, including in most of europe, the holiday tends to be named something starting with pas-.

    the spring rebirth/fertility festivities are, of course, much older than xianity (or likely any currently active religion, i’d bet) no matter what you call them, but by the same token they’re likely older than this eostre goddess as well, so blaming it all on her seems unfair. blame axial tilt, it’s the reason for that season too after all.

    • the bug guy
      November 28, 2011 at 11:39 am

      The Pascal holiday was celebrated for centuries before the Anglo-Saxons in England were converted to Christianity and the folk in Northumbria started to use the name of one of their old heathen goddesses as the name for the holiday.

      In his writings, Bede gives no details about the goddess Eostre beyond the fact that the fourth month of the heathen calender was named after her. In translation, he wrote in De temporum ratione:

      Eosturmonath has a name which is now translated “Paschal month”, and which was once called after a goddess of theirs named Eostre, in whose honour feasts were celebrated in that month. Now they designate that Paschal season by her name, calling the joys of the new rite by the time-honoured name of the old observance.

      It also doesn’t make sense for a religion that started with a small group in the eastern Mediterranean basin during the first century CE would even have contact with the Germanic tribes of central and northern Europe, let alone adopt one of their customs as their own.

      • November 29, 2011 at 8:33 am

        While Blaise Pascal would have cheerfully observed the Paschal holiday, it was not named after him.

        • the bug guy
          November 29, 2011 at 2:46 pm

          Doh! 😉

  7. jamessweet
    November 28, 2011 at 10:56 am

    I completely disagree about the eradication of “Merry Christmas” — I think the secularization of it is a big blow for our side. Nothing renders religion impotent like absorbing it into secular culture.

    For example, I imagine a day, perhaps centuries from now, when you take your kids to the mall once a year to get “First Communion” from a guy dressed in a Pope suit who sits you on his knee (well, maybe not that part) and asks you if you have any candy preferences you’d like to confess.

  8. November 28, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    their Christ doesn’t even belong in Christmas.

    I am always amazed at the atheists who say these things as if they are profound–as if we don’t know. In fact, the place where I routinely hear how Christmas is not a Christian holiday is in church. I never had a pastor who failed to remind the congregation that the bible does not instruct us to celebrate Jesus’ birth, but only his death. The big difference is that that the fact that Christmas is not a Christian holiday usually gets presented with more intelligence and better history in church.

    This somehow goes along with other atheist myths–like you know the bible better than we do.

    Whatever “validates” you, I guess.

    • Nomen Nescio
      November 28, 2011 at 5:55 pm

      some atheists do know their bibles better than the average xian, because detailed bible study is one tried and true way of turning a thinking mind atheist. it’s worked well for some of us, and i’ll not knock them for it.

      other atheists (like myself) were lucky enough to grow up without religion, and realized there’s no particular need or reason to study any holy book very deeply before we got suckered into actually doing it. i don’t know the bible much at all, and i’m not ashamed of admitting it; there’s no reason i should know it.

      on topic; i too am looking forward to secularizing all the major holidays, and i don’t think we’re far from it as things are. having a few regular “time to party” dates in the official calendar can’t hurt, and in the northern hemisphere it makes sense to cluster them during the darker seasons, for mood relief. harvest, solstice, start of spring; call the festivals whatever, decouple them from any religion so that all of society can celebrate them with equanimity, and party on.

    • Aquaria
      November 29, 2011 at 10:25 pm

      heddle, you always make the mistake of thinking that every christard is like you.

      They are not.

      I am always amazed at the atheists who say these things as if they are profound–as if we don’t know.

      Because most chirstards don’t know!

      In fact, the place where I routinely hear how Christmas is not a Christian holiday is in church.

      And your church is attended by everybody?

      It isn’t. You’re only assuming that every church is that way–and they’re not!

      I never had a pastor who failed to remind the congregation that the bible does not instruct us to celebrate Jesus’ birth, but only his death.

      Your pastors aren’t the only pastors in the world!

      The big difference is that that the fact that Christmas is not a Christian holiday usually gets presented with more intelligence and better history in church.

      A lie, and you know it. It’s presented well by an ordinary citizen right in these posts. You just don’t want to accept that it’s better than your christard attempts at it.

      This somehow goes along with other atheist myths

      It’s not an atheist myth that there are christards who think christmas is a christard holiday. Looks like the myth-maker here is–surprise, surprise!–the myth-follower. That would be you.

      –like you know the bible better than we do.

      Well, when the surveys indicate that we do know it better than the average christard, that sort of indicates that, you know, we do. When so many of us know parts of it that the average christard doesn’t, that indicates it, too. When prominent christards don’t even know what’s in the 10 fucking commandments, that sort of indicates it as well.

      I mean, it’s not like the majority of christards actually study any of it, you know. You do know the Catholics are actively discouraged from it–right?

      Whatever “validates” you, I guess.

      Whatever make you feel like a pompous ass, I guess.

      So you’re not only a liar, but also a hypocrite.

      How christian of you.

      • November 30, 2011 at 4:53 am


        heddle, you always make the mistake of thinking that every christard is like you.

        Predictably a bigot gives some variant of the standard “but you’re not like other {blacks, Jews, …}” when confronted by an example that doesn’t fit her bigoted stereotype.

    • November 30, 2011 at 2:33 pm

      “I never had a pastor who failed to remind the congregation that the bible does not instruct us to celebrate Jesus’ birth, but only his death.”

      This greatly depends on the church. I’ve been to churches that have not mentioned it, and I’ve been to churches that do. Even in the churches that briefly mentioned that Christmas wasn’t in the bible, they never went into any detail.

  9. abb3w
    November 29, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    @0, Al Stefanelli:

    for the record, it is illegal to put up a nativity scene anywhere on public property

    As I(AmNotALawyer) understand, that’s an oversimplification of how the case law reads. Even though the land or building may be public property, it is perfectly legal for a private citizen to put a creche up in a traditional or designated public forum, or a limited public forum provided other (ir)religious displays are also allowed. It’s more iffy for a government agent to do so, but might be allowed in part of a larger multicultural seasonal display; the question of public money being spent makes it tricky.

  10. ACN
    November 30, 2011 at 9:23 am

    I was just watching this episode of Deep Space Nine (now on netflix instant!) yesterday! 🙂

  11. Sandman
    December 1, 2011 at 6:58 am

    Ah tis December so the annual Faux Nooz sponsored phony war on Christmas sirens have started, just another atonal addition to the ever present mosquito whine of “Christian Persecution” so easily sucked up into common discourse.

    We have had some of this nonsense over in the lovely secular UK over the last few years….as Trevor Phillips who chairs our Equality and Human Rights Commission pointed out its almost always evangelicals who screech persecution. We exported our religious loons to you in the early days of your country…now you are gettng your own back by exporting your happy clappy haters back to us.

    Thing is, thanks to our lovely modern evolving legal framework, its no longer possible to hide bigotry and racism in Bible verse and get away with it. And its a damn guarantee, and has been for a long long time, that any politician or party that trys to mix religion and politics gets defeated and sent packing. The Conservatives have been caught now listening too closely to happy clappy evangy anti-abortion loons and so can expect to get pasted at the next election.

    In the UK when Christians try playing the persecution card we even have senior members of the churches coming out n the media and slappng them down. The Bishop of Bradford has done it a few times in the press and on TV recently….he says its all nonsense publicly and loudly as often as needed.

    Your problem in the US is with what is termed “Big Tent Christianity” – an extremist evangelical Seeker loon like Bachmann adopts the mantle of speaker for all Christians when in fact she should be marginalised as a glassy eyed extremist dominionist cult drone…the lunatic bigoted fringe of an already threadbare faith. A follower of the most backward childish snake dancer rock n roll heresy variant of Abrahamic dimwittery. And the more moderate sit by and let her get away with it…..pure madness.

    You begin by rippng up a few tentpegs. Your politicians are all spin dry puppets worked by handlers and advisors who rely on focus groups. Go to these groups, or lapelgrab canvassers, and state quite clearly that any candidate that uses faith as a bargaining chip to win votes will NEVER get yours. If you hear your pastor or priest endorse a candidate report them to the IRS for breach of the 503 tax code. Little steps….

    Get active, get vocal and get in their faces….or carry on living in that stealth theocratic whorehouse they have turned your democracy into.

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