About People Who Vote Against Their Own Interests.

The following is quoted from an internet forum post by a person with the screen name “yeahiknow5”. It was brought to my attention by one of my Facebook friends, Joe Markey. Neither Joe nor I wrote this. Except for paragraph formatting, it has not been changed, including the language.


“You should read “What’s the Matter with Kansas” & “Deer Hunting With Jesus”. Both are great takes on a working class, anti-intellectual, redneck culture that has been convinced to consistently vote against their own best interests. I listen to my own father, who has been the victim of layoffs from corporate merger after merger, who’s had his retirement fucked, who’s lost money on wall street – he’s done everything he was ‘supposed’ to do. He joined the military, went to college, had 2 kids, bought the house, invested & saved his money, worked his fucking ass off all his life & he still has squat to show for it. Now as a man well into his 60s he’s feeling the wrath of age discrimination, he’s finding his skills becoming outdated & his pay & benefits today (for the last 10 years) are lower than what they’ve been in the last 30 for him. Living the american life he finds his health failing as he’s a lifetime smoker with a growing waistline.

He’s the prototypical uncultured, red-blooded american male. He slathers his streak in ketchup, votes conservatives down the line, and wants the good old days before the women, blacks and fags took over. He’s a flag waver, supports his troops, and fends for himself. He’s always bitching about how much money corporations have to spend bc of regulation & about how the upper class need a tax cut. Nothing in the world makes him angrier than “socialism” & the so-called welfare state. Working people getting needed services bothers him tremendously because a few extreme token examples get painted as degenerate leeches by the likes of AM Radio & Fox News. ANd then he’ll turn right around & support corporate subsidy for just about anything from corn to oil – b/c it “stimulates jobs” and it “trickles down”.

He refuses to recognize that we as a nation spend more money at the beckoning of corporate America than we even begin to touch what we spend on our own citizenry through what he claims is “welfare” or infrastructure. He’s a working class guy who’s been fucked by the system all his life. He still puts his suit on with a kind of sad pride, every day, & goes to work downtown to phone-monkey job nowadays. He’s doing a job any body could do but he likes to pretend all his education & experience has gotten him somewhere. He’s deluded about what America’s exceptional way of life has brought him personally as he is deluded about what the world is like at large. So he denies global warming, blames the unions, blames teachers & other government workers, blames regulation, blames the EPA & the FDA, blames those struggling to make it in this world, blames the blacks, blames the immigrants, blames everyone & anyone but those at the top.

He’d rather blame fellow working people trying to grab a piece of the pie, rather than blame the crooks who deprive us all. Because somehow – be it by gender identity, racial identity, national identity, he thinks his class, his type belongs at the top. He’s the top dog! But he’s not. He’s a nigger, i’m a nigger, muslims are niggers and mexicans are niggers, teachers and steel workers, and farmers too. To people like the Koch Brothers, we’re all niggers and my dad can’t see that. This is an us vs them game and people like my father are fucking deluded as to what side they’re on or can be on one day. Somewhere deep down inside, he admires those at the top – he wants to be them & even though he knows he’ll never be one of them, he likes to pretend.

He goes to his Applebee’s, Red Lobster & Outback & bitches about all the blacks there. I think this is important to note – it’s indicative of his whole perspective. He is the same CLASS of people as these folks, he’s spending roughly the same amount on dinner as them, but thinks things are going to hell because they are there. He doesn’t get that he IS THEM. He’s the same fucking class, in the same fucking boat. He’s got relatively the same education level, roughly the same pay checks, living roughly the same way of life. But he’s been convinced to fight, to hate, to dislike his own class of people & to admire & defend the class that basically owns & controls his life & all our lives. He has been perfectly trained to rail against the ‘other’.

Against feminists, environmentalists, labor movements, racial minorities, immigrants, public sector workers, union members. These people aren’t HIS brothers & sisters – they are his enemy. He’s so busy hating “otherness” that he doesn’t realize he is them – and we’re all getting fucked by the same small group of people at the top. This is the same thing as him blaming unions & the welfare state. He has been indoctrinated through the years to fight amongst, to disagree with, to blame, & sometimes to outright hate people in the same boat as him. Not only kiss the ass of, but actively defend & fight on behalf of those who would take everything away from him, his wife & his family if they could make a buck on it – because he believes in an American dream & a way of life that simply doesn’t exist. He talks of freedom of those who have all the capital, but he doesn’t worry about his own freedom. He doesn’t worry about the freedom of his neighbors.

All he see’s as those liberal that take away rich people’s money are the same people telling him where he can & cannot smoke and that he should put his seatbelt on – so liberals must “hate freedom!”. Those damned reading elitist liberal communists! He has been convinced, as have many Americans – to hate their own & to defend their masters. To squabble over our petty & even cosmetic differences, rather than to unite on our common interests to fight for proper pay, benefits, rights as a consumer & as a worker, & for a clean environment. This is what happens when you have a class of people who were never taught to think for themselves, who act like reading is for fags, who are more willing to listen to hot heads like Beck & Limbaugh than to read any kind of political theorists, scientists, or economists.

This is what happens when you close your mind & you become one who’s always looking for that “other” to hate & to blame for your problems rather than to look at yourself or open your eyes to the bigger picture. People like my dad are willing to accept AM radio, Fox News talk shows, & even Fwd chain emails as official sources, & then single-handedly ignore any material the talking heads on these shows didn’t point him to. Because you can’t trust anyone but them! The ability to critically think, verify, discern the credibility of sources, to do the damned research yourself, is completely lost on these folks. That’s what these fucking Tea Party & GOP talking heads hope for. They hope to god that their lies they spew get echoed in the public sphere so often that it becomes reality. That people are too dumb or too lazy to verify what they spout.

This makes it so that people who are trying to get real shit done have to waste our time correcting mis-truths & disinformation just to garnish the slightest bit of public support to make progress anywhere. People don’t realize how dangerous this shit is. Right now the economy is & had been in the shitter. People are scared. People have lost their jobs & they’re angry. They have organized & mobilized into this populist “tea party”. They even think it’s a real grassroots org & dismissing the fact that they’re being led by billionaires & a corporate media. These are the angry masses that will eat up any scapegoat that their “leaders” feed them.

We’ve seen this in history before. I’m not trying to evoke Godwins Law or anything but i see a lot of correlations between the right-wing disenfranchised populist uprising here in America & a lot of what people experience in Wiemar Germany. There was a lot of angry people, scared about the loss of their jobs & an economy in bad shape. Those angry, uneducated people were looking for someone to blame. They didn’t care if they sided with a political party that would be responsible for fucking them over & destroying their democracy, not to mention the massive harm they would do to other groups. No, all that mattered was they found leaders who pretended to have answers. People like quick & simple answers & fixes, certainty & shared anger.

That’s what the Nazi Party gave them. That’s what the Tea Party/Fox News/AM Radio & portions of the GOP are giving this right wing uprising too. Anything intellectual is ignored or met with disinformation & a general air an superior anti-intellectualism. Everywhere I go: home to my parents, at work in the break room, flip on the tv, browse the internet – i see the same message: “My opinion is better than your facts”. This approach is rooted deeply in ignorance & anger most of the time. When the populace stops listening to those with brains & ignores factual information, & opts for those that shout opinions, we got a problem. The Tea Party would be an extremely powerful force if they had a politician that was worth a damn. Every time they have someone who is charismatic, they’re an obvious idiot or crook.

If somebody comes along who is charismatic & honest the US is in trouble bc of the frustration, disillusionment, justified anger & the absence of any coherent response from liberals. What are people supposed to think if someone says ‘I have got an answer, we have an enemy’? There it was the Jews. Here it will be the illegal immigrants from Mexico, the Muslims, teachers, unions, Planned Parenthood, NPR, & blacks (you can toss in atheists, homosexuals & liberals too). We will be told that WASPy private sector males are a persecuted minority. We will be told we have to defend ourselves & the honor of the nation. instead of fixing problems that truly affect the all of the working class, the nation will be convinced to support legislation that will further protect & consolidate power for the corporate elite.

All those privacy rights, the voice we have in our government, & due process checks & balances that protect us all? Those things just get in the way of security & stability. The right-wing that supports these parties & leaders get hurt too, just in a more subtle way – they give away their rights & are too stupid to realize what they’ve done to themselves.

  160 comments for “About People Who Vote Against Their Own Interests.

  1. March 10, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Hell, yes!!!

    • Greg
      March 16, 2011 at 9:57 am

      What is the point in this? – Seems like its just spreading stereotypical hate against middle-america… Whether it be true or not.

      What about the closed minded liberal who completely disregards everything said from the other side, as lies…. who classifies everything that comes from Fox as lies… and classifies everyone who watches/listened to fox and am radio as racist, bigoted, homophobes…. What about those people. Do they have the right to just generalize all those who disagree with them, whether they be factually incorrect, or just misinformed. Should these people be hailed as our saviors?
      Think for yourselves people… dont EVER listen to blanket stereotypes

      • Steven Paul Perry
        March 16, 2011 at 4:45 pm

        No it’s not stereotypical hate against middle America. The point of this? It’s actually pointing to a very sad fact about how some people think. The point, Greg, is that the only thing thing you ever hear coming from the people they listen to who spew hatred from the extreme “conservative” media are complaints, and attacks. They’re not offering solutions that would help ALL Americans. They are weaving propaganda that fuels fear and hatred, which keeps the working class, and the vanishing middle class in the dark about the FACT that the top 2% have all the money and control the “system” they buy politicians, and install them to do their bidding. There is no love or compassion for the common man. And by the way, Greg, I do think for myself, question authority and information. I consider myself to be a liberal. That means I care about my fellow man. Even the poor misguided ignorant fools who vote against themselves. I want their lives to be better too. I see the larger view of all mankind being more similar than different. It is the illusion of separateness that causes one group to blame another group. Causes war over religious beliefs.

      • Joseph
        March 17, 2011 at 4:58 am

        Greg, you are so exactly the stereotype that is being described here, and that makes you a cliche.

      • Rick Diamond
        March 17, 2011 at 9:59 am

        The sinister “beauty” of Fox News is that it isn’t ALL lies. Just some of it. When news is partially true, it’s false. If you don’t ever learn anything else, learn that.

        The other mistake here is: Liberals don’t disagree with everything said by the other side. They just disagree with the factually incorrect statements. If something can be proven false and you still believe it–well you’re a moron. I’m not being mean here; I’m just pointing out the obvious. If someone shows you government figures illustrating that lowering the top income tax percentage below 39% causes less revenue in the treasury and you say we need to lower millionaires’ taxes to fix the deficit and debt, well, you’re a moron.

        And as far as your statement, “Should these people be hailed as our saviors?”: Of course not. YOUR side’s going to win–which means we’re all going to lose.

        In abiotic evolution, stupidity can triumph over intelligence.

      • March 18, 2011 at 12:51 pm

        Steven, the only thing you’ve said I would take exception with is your phrase “some people”. Accurate, but quantifiably soft. I would have preferred the term “many people” or even “far too many people”. The problem is that there are so many people that think like ‘idontknows’ father, that we are in a stalemate (or a little on the short-end) that cannot move from the status quo, decade after decade after decade. Unless at least 20% of the sheeple can be brought to understand the self-destructive nature of their position, we will keep dragging anchor and never lift ourselves above the effect of sheer ignorance.

      • Fluff
        March 18, 2011 at 2:24 pm

        “What about the closed minded liberal who completely disregards everything said from the other side, as lies…” worte Greg.

        HA! Listen to yourself, a hole!
        Yeah but. Yeah but, Yeah but… it’s the right wing screamer everytime reaction: Look over there!

        like kids caught buy Mom. “Yeah but he did…”…idiots.

      • Seva
        March 21, 2011 at 5:57 am

        Sorry, Greg: Fox does lie; repeatedly. The fact (true) that FRN (Fox Republican News) would hire a moron such as Sara Palin as a ‘commentator’ and pay her $1,000,000 a year speaks for itself. There are few Republican candidates who haven’t been on Rupert’s payroll. Fox is nothing more than a right-wing propaganda mill, and even the Canadians have figured that out because Fox was denied a license to broadcast in Canada. Why? Because Canadian media outlets are forced-by law-to tell the truth. FRN couldn’t meet that standard. We used to have such a quaint concept embodied in our own Fairness Doctrine, but that requirement was removed by…duh…a Republican, that Great Communicator, Ronald Reagan. So get used to it, Greg: if you watch FRN, you’re being lied to. You may not be a racist, bigoted homophobe, but if you are there’s one thing fer shur: you’re a Republican.

      • TitusInChains
        May 1, 2011 at 12:33 am

        It’s a little difficult to give any credibility to your exhortation to ignore blanket stereotypes after you invoke Fox News as a being a victim of this phenomenon.

        The fatal flaw in your argument is that it implies that the accusations of dishonesty made by what you term “closed minded liberals” are untrue and unfair. Yet Fox has been exposed numerous times for intentionally distorting the truth and occasionally promoting outright lies. Conservatives refuse to accept or believe this, even when it is proven beyond the shadow of a doubt. I do allow for some benefit of the doubt, though, because I think that some conservatives don’t understand the distinction between objective journalism and opinion-as-news, the latter being the preferred approach at Fox News. Their claim of a fair and balanced approach is misinterpreted as being “more honest”, when in actuality it is a conservative reaction to what it perceives as a liberal bias in the media. The basic premise is that countering this perceived imbalance requires presenting an interpretation of the news biased in the opposite direction in order to level the playing field, thus making it “fair and balanced”. Therein lies the fatal flaw.

        • May 1, 2011 at 7:03 am

          Titus, you do understand that I am not the author of this, right? Just want to clear this up.

      • John M.
        June 26, 2011 at 11:14 am

        And ?

      • William
        July 1, 2011 at 1:19 am

        I don’t know any of those “liberal” people … if they exist, perhaps they are wrong as well.

        But rather than change the subject to “liberals”, why not address the issues that this blogger has raised … namely the Americans who vote against their own interests … and why that phenomenon exists?

      • Alan
        August 6, 2011 at 5:23 am

        Agreed. The author’s complaints could be just as accurately aimed at the Left.

        Some of the points hit home, because there are uneducated and angry folks both Left and Right, and frankly there’s a lot to be angry about. More generally, it is something of a conceit to presume that people on the Right are “voting against their own interests”. Obviously they are not, because their interests are not the same as the interests of those on the Left. Which does a person value more – more loot for themselves, or the satisfaction of not being a thief? To a person who works from the assumption that one cannot grant to government a power one does not rightfully have in their self, granting government the power to take from one person to give to another is clearly theft. Creating large deficits or establishing unsustainable entitlement programs for future generations to pay for is theft from their own children.

        One might argue about the basic premises involved and their implications, but presuming that one’s political opponents must have the same interests as oneself is condescending and sloppy.

      • Marg
        November 12, 2011 at 11:04 am

        Greg, You are in denial. If you beleive the propaganda you are fed by Fox news.

      • Memphis Johnny
        September 2, 2012 at 7:48 pm

        Greg! In your first sentence: … “whether it be true or not”. … That kind of statement is what causes me to not pay much attention to present day neo-conservatives. I can’t waste time trying to figure out what is the truth or not……. You need to try a different approach.

      • September 3, 2012 at 10:13 am

        My God, you are who he is talking about.

    • jack smith
      August 4, 2012 at 9:20 pm

      charasmatic leader, better be ware of rand paul, cus all they need is the right leader. the tea baggers really do beleive, they are grass routes party. they have never heard of the Koch’s. come to think of it, i doubt they even know who represents them in congress. sickening!

  2. March 10, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    I run into this all the time. If I try to help the individual see the broader view, the response is always, “Well, if you [lived where I live, do what I do, look like I look like, etc], you’d feel the same why I do.”

    No, probably not.

    • Joe
      July 9, 2012 at 9:24 pm

      is standing against larger, more controlling governments(study nazis) make me evil? Wanting a smaller, less intrusive government is bad? Parents are blue dog democrats. I hate a lot that the GOP does. But, am I a bad man because I believe that both parties are out to fuck over Americans for their own gain?
      Parents were business owners. Both became disabled by the time I was 14. Both were unable to even get the jobs they tried hard to get. I was brought home to a massive home, but graduated high school living in a tiny shack. I was taught hard work. The last great politician to me was Zel Miller, a Dem. But I still won’t trust a single damn dem that is in office today. The party has changed. And the GOP is not any better. Fox tells so much that CNN, CNBC, and MSNBC does not. Also it goes the other way around. Only a fucking idiot is going to side with just one side against the other. This article is written to spread liberal agenda. Just like NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, CNBC, MSNBC, and CNN do. Then there’s FNC that is the counter to all them.
      Just the views of a man who now owns his own business that spans the pacific. Get a grip people.

  3. khan
    March 10, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Are we related?

  4. March 10, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    This is a powerful and very true comment on American society. One thing that strikes me often in talking to conservatives is that they are unwilling to accept any fact that contradicts their beliefs – just like so many Christians. There’s a religious component to this ability to endure so much cognitive dissonance without reconsidering any of your preconceived notions about politics or economics.

    • March 14, 2011 at 6:36 am

      And sadly the UK seems to be following suit.

    • james cranford
      March 14, 2011 at 2:28 pm

      sometimes i like to disagree just to be ornery. i use to think of myself a republican. but they go to washington, roll over and play dead. the biggest irony?? if a republican does it, oooohh its a bad thing, like gitmo and troops in afghan and iraq theatres. if a republican has an affair, its a career buster, if a republican, oooh, uncle tom.. shame on you… notice any succcessful black person who is not an athlete or an entertainer is considered an uncle tom by their own community, much less liberals in general (you have to shutup and listen to yourself for a minute). if a republican wants to cut union pay, slow down the rate of growth of government, or close duplicate bureaucracies,,, oooh,, devil fascist, trying to starve the children parents too damn sorry to feed themselves. and on and on. if a democrat tries to do these things, ooh, he walks on water, it is a career booster.
      want to see some uncivil behavior? disagree with a liberal. works every time. and if they nothing but what is in the paper to rely on, they will rely on name calling.
      take the tea party. i read article after article trying to find somewhere they beat someone up, left a mess or defaced public property. sure they would report that cause, heck they are all rascists and such. but take a look at Wisconsin and the ‘civil’ actions of the union supporters protesting. 7 million dollars in damage to the state property. (they should bill the teachers unions for that). duly elected officials trying to do what the people who sent them there wanted to do, and those who oppose degenerate into namecalling and threats.
      here is one thought: i have disagreed with every president in my lifetime starting with carter. now, suddenly i am a rascist? is that civil? calling me a rascist because i disagree with this guy’s policies? look in the mirror. who is making a decision based on skin color!!

      • curmudgeon
        March 14, 2011 at 4:59 pm


        No, you’re a moron. Learn how to spell and maybe people would respect your opinion just a little bit more. And, this essay apparently failed to penetrate your thick skull to any degree.

        Civil? Take a look at the TRULY RACIST banners and signs that were commonly seen at Tea Party rallies. Then get back to me about ‘civility.’

      • Siara Delyn
        March 14, 2011 at 5:06 pm

        QUOTE: if a republican has an affair, its a career buster”

        Are you kidding? All they have to do is say that the devil tempted them into sin but now they’re asking their Lord and Savior for strength and salvation, and they get a free pass from their constituents to do what they want.

        Both parties are equally bad in this respect. Like they say…”98% of politicians give the other 2% a bad name.”

      • Cheryl
        March 14, 2011 at 7:56 pm

        That $7,000,000 figure has been debunked. No where near that, but that doesn’t stop the propaganda machines from spreading it as fact. The cleanup mostly came from having to remove sticky residue from signs that were taped to walls. Would you have considered that as a possibility if you ever posted a sign at a rally? I’m a teacher and I tape things to the walls all the time without damage (and buy my own tape and posterboard since our school has no money to buy supplies, but that’s beside the point).

        The other costs came from having to clean up after thousands of people. I imagine these costs are accrued at every Tea Party rally as well. Believe it or not, we all go to the bathroom; we all create trash.

      • chris ahearn
        March 15, 2011 at 12:28 am

        I believe Jon Stewart threw your theory out the window on his show the other night ,,showed all the republicans still in office ,and the dems out when they screwed up ,,google Jon Stewart

      • Darrell Phare
        March 15, 2011 at 12:31 pm

        “…disagree just to be ornery”?!! You disagree because you are the poster child for those described in the letter. That’s the ironly. Those like you manage this twisted logic in your own brain that, without realizing it, parrot the FOX-style contradictory points that are cited in the letter. So what does your style of ‘ornery’ contribute to understanding? The big goose egg. You do however make the author’s point to a tee.

      • Certifiable
        March 15, 2011 at 3:05 pm

        You had a point until you threw out the misinformation. For one there is not $7 million in damage. They revised that down to about $0. Do some research and please stop believing the bs.

      • Ben
        March 15, 2011 at 3:37 pm

        Actually, the “7 million dollars in damage to the state property” was thoroughly debunked. Turns out the people reporting that figure (Fox) pulled it out of thin air. They, of course, reported the actual costs later (about $30,000, I think?) but not before planting the $7 million price tag in the heads of their viewers. Next time you read “article after article”, try checking those articles’ facts.

      • kate123
        March 15, 2011 at 3:59 pm

        Let me give you a little help using the internets because obviously, you haven’t figured out the search engines.

        Rand Paul/Tea Party Supporter Stomps Reporter’s Head

        Not $7 million

        Try watching a news source other than Fox and you might get a bit of truth in your life. But then, you probably prefer to only hear what you want to hear. Like Sarah Palin is the smartest politician on the planet, the nuclear reactors melting down in Japan pose no threat to the rest of the world and Scott Walker’s approval ratings are really, really good.

      • kikogid
        March 15, 2011 at 7:49 pm

        And thus, you prove the writers point.

      • Steph
        March 15, 2011 at 7:57 pm

        You proved his point. There was not 7 million dollars in damage. That was the original quote put int he papers. If you read the next article, you would see that it cost $350,000. If you kept watching Fox, you would still think it was 7 million. Check the facts James.

      • Boyce Johnson
        March 16, 2011 at 4:18 am

        The 7.5 million dollar figure was a lie, and even the Department of Administration backed down from it almost immediately. The signs were all hung using blue painter’s tape designed specifically not to leave residue on surfaces. The National Trust for Historic Places applauded the protestors for their thoughtful and responsible stewardship of this historic building for which they clearly cared a great deal. I was there before, during and after the occupation and I saw no damage. Unfortunately, this lie still makes the rounds among the uninformed.

      • Cheeky Bastard
        March 16, 2011 at 11:01 am

        “…If a republican has an affair, its a career buster,…”

        Ever hear of John Edwards, James?

        “If a republican wants to cut union pay, slow down the rate of growth of government, or close duplicate bureaucracies,,, oooh,, devil fascist,…”

        Because history shows us that this is exactly what fascists do in their preliminary grab for power (read the quote by Pastor Martin Niemoller)…never mind that it was the Republican sponsors Wall St. and the shadow banking system that caused the problems that we now want to punish the unions for. You are definitely the person being written about in the article.

        Well done.

      • March 16, 2011 at 7:28 pm

        I think you are still a Republican. The damage to the capitol bldg. in Wisconsin was more like $300,000 than 7 million, I hear that was misinformation.

        The article was about voting against your own interests & I think the insight on why people do it was on target.

        If you want to be my FB friend, send me a friend request. I’m a liberal, so we can see if you can make me mad. I have one other conservative I debate with, the other conservatives are mute.

      • June 27, 2011 at 3:51 pm

        “want to see some uncivil behavior? disagree with a liberal. works every time. and if they nothing but what is in the paper to rely on, they will rely on name calling.
        take the tea party.”

        Actually, I have seen and witnessed MORE name calling, hatred and vitriol coming from the Right and the Tea Party more than I have from the Democrats…You didn’t see stories about Democrats stomping on the head of protesters last year did you?

        Also in regards to your claim that when a republican commits Adultery their career is over….Look at David Vitter for a prime example. He has broken an actual LAW, and still in office, yet Weiner took some pictures of his junk and lost his job.

      • January 16, 2012 at 8:47 pm

        Wow…You are All Over the chart dude..What is your major malfunction? What is this B.S. of “want to see some uncivil behavior? Disagree with a Liberal”?? Hahaha! Wow…Sad. Believe it or not, “Liberals” tend to be a lot more Intelligent because they have much more open minds. They tend to see the whole picture as opposed to just looking in their own backyard. What I’m saying here is that we “Liberals” have a tendency to care about the well-being of complete strangers, unlike conservatives who tend to stick to only their family and friends and Screw everybody else. “Liberals” tend to embrace and learn about things and cultures they are unfamiliar with.. Conservatives on the other hand tend to Fear and Reject what they are unfamiliar with instead of embracing and learning about it. For the most part, “Liberals” like to base their conversations on facts. Conservatives are more inclined to base their conversations on fear mongering and political rhetoric. Sad but true. Now, I’m not saying that All Democrats are “good and perfect people”…Far from it but when compared to Most Republicans, they are more caring, compassionate, generous and Intelligent and the only lesson they really need to take from Republicans is how to strengthen their resolve in Congress and not cave in to conservative Goose-Stepping.

        Oh, and I don’t know of any democrat who was supportive of cutting union pay…Which was not really what that was about..It was about Union BUSTING and taking away the Rights of union members which is Why the Democratic members of their state Congress Left the state so that there could not be a vote…As for your Wisconsin comment. about damages, You must have a really short memory..There were Plenty of Teabagger rallies that disintegrated into violence (while toting badly misspelled racist signs) so yeah..Okay..Still not calling you a racist because I don’t know you (although your rant about “uncle toms” and black people who aren’t athletes or entertainers(WTF??) leads me to wonder..It is hard to decipher what exactly you were trying to say there. Very confused and garbled.

        Enough. After having read your comments several times, I have concluded that my post is a colossal waste of time. People like you have your minds set in stone. I am not going to beat my head against that stone.

        As for this blog..I’m sad to say that is is spot on. Too many people who vote Against their own best interests because they cannot face the fact that Very Few people actually make it into that exclusive American club called “The Upper Two Percent”.


  5. Tom
    March 11, 2011 at 4:10 am

    You had me at “You should read”.

  6. smartmarzipan
    March 11, 2011 at 9:05 am

    I work in a redneck bar in the middle of nowhere. I see this EVERY DAY. Working white males and their wives blaming “niggers”, blaming liberals, blaming everyone except who is really responsible for their troubles. They hate anyone who is not like them and watch Fox News and glorify those fat, rich white guys on TV feeding them paranoia. Thank you for this article. It is spot on.

  7. Drew
    March 11, 2011 at 9:51 am

    God I wish I had the nuts to repost this on Facebook. I admit that I am a coward who likes his job and peace in his extended family, but good show anyway. I will spread this clandestinely.

    • TitusInChains
      April 30, 2011 at 11:52 pm

      This post illustrates how toxic the political environment has become, increasingly so since the advent of the Tea Party with it’s total inflexibility and lack of tolerance towards any political viewpoint, opinion or agenda that doesn’t march in lockstep with their own. I find it fascinating to read so many claims by those on the political right about the uncivil and oppressive tactics used by the left against anyone who doesn’t support their agendas when that precise behavior has been a core component of the conservative movement for over three decades to the point where it now dominates the entire political spectrum and makes reasoned, rational debate and discussion almost impossible.

  8. Michieux
    March 11, 2011 at 10:04 am

    Preaching to the choir, here, I think.

  9. Brian
    March 11, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Been saying this for DECADES. Thanks for reminding me to post stuff now that there is a place to post it. I will use your article for creation of PSA’a using some anectdotes as vignettes for the content.
    The word needs to get out.

  10. Bob Soper
    March 11, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    We have the same dad!

    • Libby Shipman
      March 14, 2011 at 10:13 pm

      Me too!!!

      • Manda
        March 17, 2011 at 12:54 pm

        Me three!

  11. Lillie
    March 11, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    Tell the truth, yes, yes. This is soooooooooo

  12. March 11, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    It is so hard to take when we are so outnumbered in the way to get this information to middleclass people everywhere, they own it all, except a few facets of MSNBC, which they vilify with a vengence daily, screaming about the completely idiotic notion of an all liberal media. We need credible voices shouting to the rooftops. There are wonderful blogs, but they are read mostly by our choir.We desperately need an idea where all this great information rivals theirs every single day. The nonsense newly elected governors from Florida & Minnesota are displaying may open some eyes. Also repubs, especially the radicals, tend to overplay their hand. May Obama suddenly began channeling FDR, man could we use him about now!

    • Libby Shipman
      March 14, 2011 at 10:14 pm

      Unfortunately, many of us were fooled by Obama. He is one of them. He could have created jobs by updating and repairing the infrastructure – what makes more sense than that? But, noooooooooo….. He is bought and paid for.

      • Ed
        March 16, 2011 at 12:47 pm

        Reread this letter. How is he supposed to get anything done in the climate we know exists. I think he is smart and taking an incrimental approach.

      • I'm with stupid
        March 17, 2011 at 2:46 am

        This is actually a reply to the post by Ed below you, Libby. There is no reply link for his comment.

        So, Ed, you are pretty much totally wrong, while Libby is correct. Look at what he has done, not what you wish he had done: expanded war; expanded civilian deaths in said wars; continued torture (Bradley Manning); continued illegal kidnapping and imprisonment; lied about the public option, which he bargained away behind closed doors nine months before the “health care” bill was voted on, all the while pretending it was still a possibility; gave away negotiations for pharmaceutical prices behind closed doors (something which, however, came out more quickly; attacked whistle blowers with prosecutions after claiming on his campaign website “Protect Whistleblowers: Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in performance. Barack Obama will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers who expose waste, fraud, and abuse of authority in government. Obama will ensure that federal agencies expedite the process for reviewing whistleblower claims and whistleblowers have full access to courts and due process.” http://1.usa.gov/fhGTUV

        Ed, before you start typing, know what your typing about.

  13. Dennis Fritz
    March 11, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    An excellent post, and it certainly describes a type of person we all know.

    However, I think liberals bear a lot of the blame here. Say what you like about conservatives, but they have never stopped trying to reach people. Conservatives have never ceased believing that if they reach out to the grassroots, they can convince people to see things their way.

    Not so with liberals. It seems most liberals–not all–have pretty much written off the majority of Americans as hopelessly stupid, passive and reactionary. Liberals often think that while they and their friends are smart to “get it,” almost no one else is. So they don’t try. Instead, they just complain about how stupid and passive and brainwashed their fellow Americans are. I don’t think that is a very good strategy for turning things around.

    • Tom
      March 13, 2011 at 5:08 pm

      This is an excellent reply to a great post.

    • Ken Albin
      March 17, 2011 at 1:44 am

      Hmmm…Lately the only time conservative Republican legislators here in Florida tried to get close to me it has been to pick my almost empty pocket so they can increase their own wealth or their corporate buddies’ wealth. They have been using the Tea Party help them raid the state pension fund, eliminate union influence, and slash education funding so they can lower corporate taxes. One fool even tried to pass a bill that would have allowed golf courses to be built in state parks!

  14. March 11, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    those are universal truth/s, not just North American.

  15. c.burgos
    March 11, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    The following is edited from an internet forum post by a person with the screen name “yeahiknow5″. It was brought to my attention by one of my Facebook friends, Joe Markey. Neither Joe nor I wrote this.
    You should read “What’s the Matter with Kansas” & “Deer Hunting with Jesus”. Both are great takes on members of working class, anti-intellectual, redneck culture who have been convinced to vote consistently against their own best interests. I listen to my father, who is the victim of layoffs from corporate merger after merger, who’s had his retirement fucked, who’s lost money on wall street, who’s done everything he was ‘supposed’ to do. He joined the military, went to college, had 2 kids, bought a house, invested & saved his money, worked his fucking ass off all his life -& he still has squat to show for it. Now, as a man well into his 60s he’s feeling the wrath of age discrimination, finding his skills have become outdated & his pay & benefitsfor the last 10 years are lower than they’ve been in the last 30 years. Having lived the American life, he’s a smoker with a growing waistline & finds his health failing.
    He’s the typically uncultured, red-blooded American man -slathers his steak in ketchup, votes for conservatives down the line, and wants the ‘good old days’ before ‘women, blacks and fags’ ‘took over’. He’s a flag waver, supports our troops, fends for himself. He’s always bitching about how much money corporations have been made to spend because of regulation & how the upper class needs a tax cut. Nothing in the world makes him angrier than ‘socialism’ & the ‘welfare state’. For working people to get needed services bothers him tremendously because a few extreme examples get generalized as degenerate leeches by talking heads of AM Radio & Fox News. Then he’ll turn right around & support corporate subsidies for just about anything from corn to oil – because it ‘stimulates jobs’ and ‘trickles down’.
    He refuses to recognize that our nation spends more money at the beck of corporate America than we get even close to spending on our citizenry on what he claims is ‘welfare’ or infrastructure. He’s a working class guy who’s been fucked by the system. He still puts on a suit with a kind of sad pride every day & goes to work downtown -to a phone-monkey job. It’s a job anybody could do but he likes to pretend that his education & all his experience have gotten him somewhere. He’s as deluded about what America’s entitled way of life has brought him personally as he is about the world at large. So, he denies global warming, blames the unions, teachers & other government workers, regulations, the EPA, the FDA, those struggling to make it in this world, the blacks, the immigrants, everyone & anyone but: those at the top.
    He’d rather blame his fellow working people who are trying to get a share of the pie, than blame the crooks who deprive us all. Because, somehow – related by gender, racial or national identity, he thinks his class, his type -belongs at the top. He’s the top dog! But -he’s not, to the real top 2%. To people like the Koch brothers, he and I are as niggers, blacks, Muslims and Mexicans are as niggers, -teachers, steel workers and farmers too. To them, we’re all niggers, but my dad can’t see that. It’s a ‘them’ vs. ‘us’ game and people like my father are fucking deluded as to what side they’re on. Somewhere, deep down inside, he admires those at the top – he wants to be them & even though he knows he never will, he likes to pretend.
    He goes to his local Applebee’s, Red Lobster, Outback -& bitches about all the blacks there. I think this is important to note – it’s indicative of his whole perspective. He is the same CLASS as these folks; he’s spending roughly the same amount on dinner, but he thinks things are going to hell because they’re there. He doesn’t get that HE IS THEM. He’s the same fucking crew, in the same fucking boat. He’s got relatively the same education, at roughly the same pay grade, living roughly the same way -but he’s been convinced to fight, hate, dislike his class of people & to admire & defend a class that basically owns & controls his life & the lives of us all. He has been perfectly trained to rail against that ‘other’: -feminists; environmentalists; labor movements; racial minorities; immigrants; public sector workers; union members –as these people aren’t HIS brothers & sisters – but are his enemies. He’s so busy hating ‘otherness’ that he doesn’t realize he is they – and we’re all getting fucked by the same small group of people at the top. It’s the same as when he’s blaming unions & the ‘welfare state’. He has been indoctrinated through the years to fight amongst, disagree with, blame & sometimes, to outright hate people in the same boat as he –but not to only kiss the ass of, but also actively defend & fight on behalf of those who would take everything away from him -his wife & family if those thought they could make a buck on him and his – because he believes in The American Dream, a way of life that -simply doesn’t exist. He supports freedoms for those who have all the capital, and doesn’t worry about his own freedoms -or the freedoms of his neighbors.
    Those people he sees as ‘liberals who take away rich people’s money’, he sees as the same people who’ve told him where he can or can’t smoke and that he must wear his seatbelt – so ‘liberals must hate freedom’! ‘Those damned literate elite liberal communists!’ He’s been convinced as have many Americans to hate their own but to defend their ‘masters’ -to squabble over our petty, even cosmetic differences, rather than to unite due to our interests in common -and fight for proper pay, benefits, rights as consumers/workers & a clean environment. This is what happens when a class of people who are never taught to think for themselves are more willing to listen to hotheads like Beck & Limbaugh than to read any writings of political theorists, scientists, and economists, because they feel ‘reading is for fags’.
    What happens when a mind is closed & always looking for that ‘other’ to hate & blame them for problems rather than to open one’s eyes to the bigger picture is that someone such as my dad is willing to accept AM radio & Fox News talk shows as reality & go so far as to forward chain emails as official sources then narrow-mindedly ignore any material the talking heads on those shows didn’t point him toward -because ‘you can’t trust anyone but those guys’! The ability to think, verify, discern the credibility of sources, do the damned research is completely lost to these folks. That’s what the fucking Tea Party & GOP talking heads hope -they hope to God the lies they spew get echoed in the public sphere often enough to become accepted reality & people got too dumb or lazy to verify what is spouted at them as truth or propaganda.This makes it so that we people who really try to get shit done must waste time correcting mistruths & disinformation just to garner the slightest bit of public support to make progress.
    Does no one realize how dangerous this is? Right now the economy is & has been in the shitter. People are scared -they have lost jobs & are angry. They’ve organized & mobilized into the populist ‘Tea Party’ which they believe is a real grassroots organization & miss the fact they’re being led by billionaires & corporate media. These angry masses will eat up any scapegoat their ‘leaders’ feed them.
    This has been seen in history. I’m not trying to evoke *Godwin’s Law or anything but I see a lot of correlation between the right-wing disenfranchised populist uprising in America & much of what people experienced in **Wiemar Germany. There were a lot of angry people scared about the job loss & an economy in bad shape. These angry, uneducated people were looking for someone to blame. They didn’t care that they sided with a political party which would ultimately fuck them over & destroy their democracy, not to mention the massive harm done to other groups. No, all that mattered was to find leaders who pretended to have answers because people like quick, simple answers & ‘fixes’, certainty & shared anger.
    That’s what the Nazi Party gave them and this is what the Tea Party/Fox News/AM Radio & portions of the GOP are now giving this right wing uprising. Anything considered to be intellectual is ignored or met with disinformation & an air of superior anti-intellectualism. Everywhere I go: home to my parents; at work in the break room; on the TV & the internet -is the same message: “My opinion is better than your facts”. This approach is deeply rooted in ignorance & anger, for the most part. Where the populace stops listening to those with brains, ignores factual information & opts for those who shout opinions, there are problems. The Tea Party would be an extremely powerful force if they had a politician who was worth a damn. Every time they find some charismatic, that person is an obvious idiot and/or crook.
    When someone does come along who is charismatic & disingenuous, the U.S. will be in for more trouble while frustration, disillusionment & justified anger cause the absence of a coherent response from liberal Americans. We aren’t supposed to think if that someone tells us, “I have got an answer, we have enemies and they are: illegal immigrants from Mexico; Muslims; teachers; unions; Planned Parenthood; NPR; Jews; blacks -& toss in: atheists; homosexuals & liberals, too”. We’ve been told WASP-y private sector men are a persecuted minority. We’re told we have to defend ourselves & the honor of the nation instead of fixing problems that truly affect all working class, attempts are made to convince us that the nation must support legislation which further protects & consolidates power for the corporate elite.
    What of privacy rights, voice in our government & due process, checks & balances that protect us all? We’re told these things ‘just get in the way of security & stability’. The right-wingers who support those parties & leaders have given away their rights in ways too subtle for them to grasp & are too stupid to realize -they do it to themselves.
    * http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=godwin%27s%20law
    ** http://www.historyhome.co.uk/europe/weimar.htm
    Edited by C. Burgos

  16. Misty Morning
    March 11, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Excuse me but were there some facts mixed in this diatribe? Something I could research or verify? Or is this far-flung and disjointed commentary merely the other side of the Fox, Limbaugh, et al, coin. Think for yourselves!

    • Deus-DJ
      March 14, 2011 at 8:57 pm

      I’m thinking for myself, and I think you’re an idiot. It’s obviously not the other side of the Fox, Limbaugh coin. If you were actually serious you would ascertain the difference between opinions and facts. but you’re not serious, and thus its best that you keep quiet rather than tell us to “think for ourselves”, as if we don’t already do that. It’s quite apparent that you don’t, however.

    • Kel Dobs
      March 15, 2011 at 2:09 pm

      Well said – that’s EXACTLY what I was thinking. At least Beck gives you sources you can read, research and use to confirm or refute his positions. I used to do it to try and prove him wrong and fight back, but found, in absolutely every instance, that he was right and his supporters could only be refuted if they blindly followed. He’s now very specific and encourages his audiences to do their own homework, find their own sources and create their own positions. It’s working, but too many still put him in the same bucket as Hannity, Levin, Savage and Limbaugh who love the sounds of their own voices.

      • ClearEyedThinker
        March 16, 2011 at 1:32 pm

        The reason that you couldn’t dispute Beck’s findings based on the sources that he gave you is that he only presents sources that support his point.

        Research outside the box.

      • March 17, 2011 at 1:35 am

        Beck is a semi coherent sack of Pus.

    • Angry Owl
      March 16, 2011 at 2:40 pm

      Obviously this is an anecdotal essay meaning it’s drawn from the writer’s OWN EXPERIENCES and opinions. It’s not a news piece. I think you need to take your own advice not to mention learn how to identify different types of compositions.

  17. Brian
    March 11, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Sadly, I’ve been echoing this sentiment for a few years now, just haven’t put the thoughts down on paper (or, ya know, in text on the web). Thanks for having the courage to say this (because lets face it, not following the sheep in political thought can have major consequences these days).

  18. Fred
    March 12, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    This is pure projection. What this man says tells us more about him than about his father. He thinks his father fears the “other,” but what he has done is to move the “other” window from strangers over to his father and others he imagines are like him, whom he then vilifies and feels superior to. In the end, he epitomizes exactly what he thinks his father has done.

    • Deus-DJ
      March 14, 2011 at 8:54 pm

      Oh seriously shut the fuck up, you goddamn idiot.

    • Riley
      March 15, 2011 at 2:56 pm

      I generally agree with you on the creation of the “other” in his description of his father, but I would argue that what you saw as vilification and claiming superiority was instead a son that was distraught over how this neo-conservative movement had essentially brainwashed his father into voting against his own interestes.

  19. dumpthedems
    March 13, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    This begs the question of what has the Democratic Party or the Liberal elite done for labor and the working class in the last 30 years and who else is voting against their own interests? What’s the Matter with Liberals should be the follow up book?

    • Deus-DJ
      March 14, 2011 at 9:01 pm

      This isn’t a democrat/republican debate. its a debate of ideology. unfortunately libertarian ideology and conservative beliefs have infected democrats. Still doesn’t change the point of what we know right and wrong is…and people who still advocate destroying the working class should be kicked out of the building, or out of office.

    • lance rodgers
      March 15, 2011 at 6:07 pm

      Yeah, perhaps you are right. I’d taken for granted what unions had done for all of us (weekends off, 8 hour workdays, living wages, etc.)and wasn’t pro union that much, After the obvious political power grab in WI however,and living in Fl where another tea party multi millionaire is governor (Rick Scott). I am now waking up and becoming more pro union than ever before. I am getting active. As Thomas Jefferson and even Shakespeare said, we get the govt. we deserve

  20. waltinseattle
    March 13, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    spot on and, @ misty (tears or just sleep mist honey?) there are better than scoially contrived “facts” in this diatribe. There is “common sense” which you might remember is the data in front of you nose, the things you have to close yourself from if you need to not sense them directly.

    Lots or reads like this and more commonly encountered every month. “Middleclass Anarchists” in the American Conmservative magazine is a good read.

    My one fault is the writer using a broad “them” brush to attribute a singular reasoning to heterogenious groups like we Tea Party. Me b one. Me a Social Libertarian (you can find that supposed impossible political animal described in a very recent AmComMag article) And read some of the British Tea folk like the fellow who was in Parliment, then spent a decade with the E.U. and cautions the U.S. please don’t go our downhill path. So different than the almost reflexive battle lines here in the former Republic we seem incapable of keeping!

    So yes, spot on but not eternal verities, just all too reoccuring symptoms of the human condition to this point in our evolution.

    • I'm with stupid
      March 17, 2011 at 3:34 am

      “heterogeneous groups like [the] Tea Party”?
      Kinda doesn’t look so heterogeneous to me.

      Overall Demographics

      Supporters of the Tea Party movement are more likely to be men, over the age of 45, white, married, and either employed or retired. Few are unemployed. They are more affluent and more educated than most Americans. Almost all said they are registered to vote, and most are Republicans.

      Data from Polling the Tea Party – NYTimes.com http://nyti.ms/hSkrM9
      Tea Party All Difference
      Men 59% 49% +10
      Women 41 51 –10

      White 89% 77% +12
      Non-white 8 21 –13

      18-29 7% 23% –16
      30-44 16 27 –11
      45-64 46 34 +12
      64+ 29 16 +13

      A New York Times/CBS News poll of backers of the emerging Tea Party movement shows that its supporters are more affluent and better educated than the general public. They tend to be white, male, and married. They are loyal Republicans, with conservative opinions on a variety of issues. And their strong opposition to the Obama administration is more rooted in political ideology than anxiety about their personal economic situation.

      Racial Attitudes

      Most supporters of the Tea Party movement say black and white people have an equal chance of getting ahead in today’s society. Tea Party supporters are significantly more likely than all adults to say that too much has been made of the problems of black people.

      In general, who do you think has a better chance of getting ahead in today’s society?
      Tea All Difference
      Party respondents
      White people 16% 31% –15
      Black people 7 4 +3
      Equal 73 60 +13
      Don’t know 4 5 –1
      or no answer

      In recent years, has too much been made of the problems facing black people?
      Too much 52% 28% +24
      Too little 6 16 –10
      Just right 36 44 -8
      Don’t know 6 11 –5
      or no answer

      Do the policies of the Obama administration favor whites over blacks, favor blacks over whites, or do they treat both groups the same?
      Favor whites 1% 2% –1
      over blacks
      Favor blacks 25 11 +14
      over whites
      Treat both 65 83 –18
      the same
      Don’t know 9 5 +4
      or no answer

      • T. J. (Jackie) Runyan
        July 9, 2012 at 11:01 am

        The question can’t be answered without correcting for the disparity in poverty rates in various groups. If a higher percentage of blacks than whites are living in poverty (and they are), then of course policies aimed to help those in poverty will “favor blacks over whites.” If a larger NUMBER of whites than of blacks are living in poverty, then policies aimed to help those in poverty will “favor whites over blacks.” And if a policy is completely unrelated to helping those living in poverty, then maybe its impact will be equal for both groups or maybe it will affect one group more than another for some other disparity (such as arrest rates, for example). It’s way too complicated to answer as it is.

  21. Ray Via
    March 13, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Amy, I really didn’t appreciate this very foul mouth liberal hater. He spews the very hate that he accuses conservatives of.

    -Ray Via

    • Siara Delyn
      March 14, 2011 at 4:57 pm

      What would you suggest the writer do instead? Watch his father trample everything he cares about in the mud and then burst with compassion and tell him that he loves him anyway?

  22. KC
    March 13, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    I have been wondering why people go against their own interest and out of all my college and graduate courses you have gave the best explanatio, I have ever read. Great!

  23. March 14, 2011 at 6:13 am

    FYI there is some academic research that supports the conclusion that working people vote against their own economic interests because they unconsciously identify with the rich and not with their own kind.

    I just wish I could find the study. I heard about it on NPR a few years ago and it seems like it was done by somebody at Johns Hopkins.

  24. Franky
    March 14, 2011 at 6:48 am

    If you wish to take over a country, the first thing you have to do is divide every one into little factions. Then you have to get each faction to fight over mostly superfluous issues. Build up the fights into down right hatred, suspicion, paranoia…etc. After years of this tactic, and propaganda, you have the whole populace in your hands. Slowly take away their rights. When they notice their rights are eroding away, blame the opposition to their beliefs (the ones you created for them) for taking away those rights. Create a series of crises that can alternately be blamed on one party or another. Demonize the other parties and systems to create more instability. After years and years of this, you have them. The liberal and the conservatives will be just exactly like one another. You have now torn down a nation that once stood strong, into a mass of hate mongering juvenile delinquents bent on the destruction of those “OTHERS”.

    • dbear
      March 15, 2011 at 5:35 pm

      The view from 10,000 ft. Very well put, Franky!

    • C'est Moi
      March 15, 2011 at 9:17 pm

      I could not have said that better myself, Franky. Spot on. Sadly.

      • Nan
        March 16, 2011 at 6:45 pm

        Anecdotal evidence…isn’t really evidence of anything, is it? Just the blogger’s opinion.

    • Marty
      March 26, 2011 at 5:41 pm

      Ah the diabolical genius of Karl Rove.

      • metaphorge
        January 16, 2012 at 5:10 pm

        …and William F. Buckley before him.

        How do you win over the public? You do it by shifting where the “center” is with clever propaganda (though the very real excesses of the Soviet Union and its client states didn’t do much to help the Left’s case).

        In the United States the political scene is dominated by a centrist party and an extreme right-wing party. The centrist party has been successfully depicted as a left-wing party in the media, with both its supporters and detractors largely agreeing with this erroneous depiction.

        Those on the left are left with few options, since the way the United States electoral system is arranged it statistically favors domination by two parties and most of the alternatives to the left of the Democrats are very fringe with little chance of electoral success and narrow agendas, so the choice becomes either supporting the “lesser of two evils” or practical abstention (either by not voting at all or casting a vote for a hopeless and/or undesirable candidate).

        The plan to undo the New Deal has been in the works for a very, very long time, and is finally starting to bear fruit.

  25. such hatred
    March 14, 2011 at 7:49 am

    nothing quite like seeing a son exhibit such seething hatred for his father’s way of life.

    The same life that molded the son into the person he is today.

    • hahawhat
      March 17, 2011 at 12:43 am

      Way of life? Is hating black people and homosexuals a legitimate way of life now? You’re just being silly.

      • metaphorge
        January 16, 2012 at 5:17 pm

        This whole “tolerance” thing is relatively new. Bear in mind that the idea that racial, ethnic or religious minorities and women are “real people” (or at least “equal” to males of a given dominant racial/ethnic/religious group in a society) has only been accepted by even a plurality of the populace for about a century or so.

  26. Siara Delyn
    March 14, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Wow, I wish every American would read this. “yeahiknow5” hits the nail on the head.

    • March 14, 2011 at 1:09 pm

      Divide and conquer. As long as we have others to hate, we spend all our energy looking over “their” shoulders instead of really paying attention to how our military industrial complex governs the minutia of our lives.

  27. Tom Reeve
    March 14, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    “This is what happens when you close your mind & you become one who’s always looking for that “other” to hate & to blame for your problems rather than to look at yourself or open your eyes to the bigger picture.”
    In this case, the other is the rich elite and the tea partyers.

  28. March 14, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    yeahiknow5 hits the proverbial nail on the head! He perfectly describes my dad — although he doesn’t smoke, is educated, and is well-read. I think now is the time when a new version of Archie Bunker needs to air — to show us all how stupid the current incarnation of the political right-wing is. In fact, I vote for Rob Reiner to play Archie (or whatever they choose to call him) this time!

  29. Phillip M. Zeuner
    March 14, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    I’m sure this guy actually loves his father; he just hates what he’s become. And if you too had your eyes open to the way America has been sold down the corporate river, you’d be pretty upset as well. Unless, of course, you identify with the dad.

    I think part of the issue with liberals is that they are actually okay with people having opinions of their own, and are willing to debate on the facts, minus the hyperbole. As soon as the argument disintegrates into a shouting match however, the ‘truth’ rests on the side of he who can shout the loudest. In a shouting match, facts are of no use. Why engage in a debate with someone who refuses to recognize facts? I do wonder however, why is it that an energized liberal is quickly marginalized as a ‘crack-pot’ or otherwise denegrated, while the fictional blatherings of so-called conservatives are even tolerated, much less repeated? Answer: Conservatives endlessly go for the fear factor to ‘engage’ their audience. People have become so apathetic that anything that makes their heart race soon becomes an addiction. Why have a life when you can tune into ‘reality’ TV? Why actually work to resolve real problems when you can stand around and talk about the ones you saw on TV last night?

    And as far as witch hunts go, well, again it’s time to look in the mirror. It’s awefully difficult to pull off criticizing someone for activity that you yourself are guilty of without having that hypocricy pointed out for all to see.

  30. David Kiefer
    March 14, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Well you almost had me there, I was begining to believe you until you blame all the problums on the Rep. This is our problums, we has people are to blame for the way all this took shape, not standing up more for our rioghts. Instead we let these nut wads do all the thinking for us. You want to blame someone blame us!

  31. Franky
    March 14, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    I wonder if anyone has noticed any parallels between The U.S. of today, and Germany of the 1930’s. You might say that is absurd, but the parallels are there for anyone to see. I’ll give you a hint. We now have a Department of Homeland Security. Guess who else had a Department of Homeland Security. They had the greatest propaganda machine of the times. Today, we have the talking fools on radio, and television from both sides of the aisle. Has anyone here read 1984?

  32. Mary Lynn McDavid
    March 14, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Deer Hunting With Jesus was written by Joe Bageant. Check him out on joebageant.com. He is priceless–and I don’t use that term loosely.

  33. March 14, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    great response!

  34. Oldie
    March 14, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    The writer is more like his father than he realizes. They both have paranoid temperaments but with different boogiemen.

  35. red slider
    March 15, 2011 at 1:04 am

    There are three things I think significant in ‘yeahiknow5’s open-eyes summation. Two of them are about education:

    1. I wonder if ‘yeahiknow5’ showed his commentary to his father? Did it begin the dialog that needs to happen? Because if it doesn’t happen – as painful, exasperating and patience testing as it is – then the 20% of those that are essential to lift the anchor that has been dragging us all through the mud of ignorance and fear will never be enlisted to help lift it, and the anchor and ourselves will remain exactly where it is – simply exchanging an inadequate number of lifters every few years.

    2. It is at least as important – hopeful as much as the essay is despairing – that the son (or daughter) of this father was able to see the situation for what it was, to transcend the constraints of their own upbringing and to somehow nurture a respect for thought in the face of ignorance, reality in the midst of delusion, self-worth under the constraints of slavery. How was that possible? I think we need to know that, for it is as important for intercepting the minds of children that are being made captive by the mindless fears of their fathers – the ambitions of fathers to feed their children to the engines of hatred and greed. Yeahiknow5 is evidence that it is possible to not only to retrieve the children of hate; but that it is possible for them to rescue themselves. What exactly do they need to be given to achieve what yeahikknow5 achieved. We need to know that to create a sufficiently strengthened future that won’t perpetually be dropping the anchor and leaving it for future generations to pick up again – over and over.

    The third thing is quite beyond the realm of critique or strategy. It is the question, ‘Can yeahiknow5’ know all that about their father and still love them; still appreciate gifts they got from the one they must so indicts (gifts which could not be incidental to their own enlightenment) that they can still say, “thanx, pop – for a few things I could not have done without.” Without that, all the education in the world will not provide us a way to proceed on foundation of love rather than hate. Without that foundation, that fundamental change from what it is we wish to change, there can be no change at all; not really.

  36. Jimbo
    March 15, 2011 at 9:45 am

    This is true to an extent, but there is a lot of liberal preening (“We are the “educated”, they are the goose stepping morons”, etc. etc.) that obscures the point, and is even counterpoductive.

    Yes, the financial elite have fucked things up – but one of the ways they have fucked it up is by, for example, importing large numbers of immigrants (both legal and illegal) to drive down wages. So while its wrong to blame the immigrants themselves (they’re just trying to make a buck), it’s perfectly legitimate to question whether or not they should be here without some liberal goon accusing you of xenophobia.

    The so-called “liberals” don’t give any more of a shit about the white working class in this country than the so-called “conservatives”: the libs, as this article demonstrates, see them as drooling Archie Bunker types who stand in the way of the transgender post-racial gay-marriage abortion-on-demand-at-the-corner-grocery Future. Economics is a sideshow to the modern liberal, except when it involved transfering money (that comes from somewhere, they know not where) to “historically disadvantaged groups”.

    A big part of the reason the Tea Party types won’t listen to liberals is that they know liberals despise them and everything they stand for – a historical white America that in the liberal imagination is just a chronicle of racism, sexism, and every other -ism. All of the achievements of their ancestors that they take pride in are ignored or ridiculed by liberals, and yet they are supposed to trust them? Good luck with that…

    • Use Facts Not Opinions
      March 15, 2011 at 5:25 pm

      Slavery and losing a civil war are pretty good achievements I guess…

      • Jimbo
        March 16, 2011 at 1:09 pm

        Ah, because of course all Tea Partiers are Southerners..>

    • dumpthedems
      March 15, 2011 at 11:46 pm

      Well Jimbo, none of your Neo-conservative or neo-Libertarian repubs are going to fix the immigration problem, especially the legal H-1B visa problem, because your cons are all for it. It will take a Progressive Liberal to fix the problems with either immigration problem you describe and I don’t mean a Democrat. Besides aren’t you teabaggers all for the so-called freemarket, deregulation and government out of your life, you should be happy that the fascist principles of the Koch Bros are working since that is who funds, backs and brainwashes the Tea Party loyalists.

      • Jimbo
        March 16, 2011 at 1:07 pm

        You continue to prove my point for me. You assume I am a conservative, a Republican, and/or a “teabagger”, (as it happens, I am none of these things – and I am probably much farther to the left on economic matters than you are) merely because I disagree with liberal preening and posturing that turns off everyone who doesn’t agree with them already.

        Sheesh, will you listen to yourself?

    • dumpthedems
      March 16, 2011 at 1:53 pm

      Jimbo, you should read what “you” write as it could have beeen cut & pasted from teabagger.com so it was not hard to mistake you for what you wrote, a complete Liberal Bashing neo-con. Sorry, but I had/have my doubts you are anything left of Obama and he is right of center.

      What the author of this article wrote is just another variation of A Day in the Life of a Conservative

  37. ken boorman
    March 15, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Naomi Klien addresses this political/social movement of the right. Add to this vote against self-interest group, small business owners who have dreams of being G.E. or the Koch Brothers.

  38. Armchair General
    March 15, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    “f a republican has an affair, its a career buster”..

    What fucking bullshit.. The #2 Republican Presidential candidate is Newt Gingrich, who’s on his 3rd wife after dumping the first two.
    The Republican party is littered with cast-off wives from these supposed Moral Christian Conservatives.. Read the fucking article again dumbass. It’s right on.

  39. vampyroteuthis
    March 15, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    Thank you for saying what needs to be said!

  40. hunkahunka
    March 15, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    you think lower middle class white males get angry for nothing? Or because low income white males are INDEED oppressed by the wealthy to such an extreme that they can be manipulated to the extent that the article describles? Do you DENY that young white women are brainwashed by feminism to hate their own men, sleep with black men, etc.? Do you DENY that excessive immigration is creating a shortage of jobs? Do you DENY that a lucrative black subculture of drug dealing, pimping, and stoned, sleazy white female masochists has been created and shoved in the faces of white guys, to deliberately piss them off?
    Do you DENY that males are being systematically oppressed so that they’ll have to join the military just to eat? Do you DENY that all of this has been CREATED by the elite of society to serve their own ends? If so , you are an idiot.

    • hahawhat
      March 17, 2011 at 2:38 am

      I deny it pretty hard, actually. Given that you’re speaking from nothing but a stance of racism and misogyny, yeah. Feminism doesn’t teach the hatred of men, it’s about women being treated the SAME as men, professionally and socially. The ‘black subculture’ you describe thrives due to the ingrained and structured racism that doesn’t allow black americans a single foothold in the upper echelons of society. You refuse to see women as nothing but things that are going out of their way to piss off men, and blacks as some kind of drug-fueled threat, because you are a misogynistic racist.

      You’re also speaking from a stance that operates on the assumption that everything minorities do is done expressly for the ire or dismantling of white, straight males. Turns out, they’re not the center of the universe. Shocking, I know. You might want to sit down, drink a glass of water, take a few deep breaths. The horror will wear off in a bit.

      You are not an oppressed minority and you do not experience a shred of the bias and bigotry the people you’re screaming at do on a daily basis. Stop clutching your pearls.

      • Chuck Terzian
        August 6, 2011 at 10:35 am

        Well said, sir.

      • Quinn
        December 4, 2011 at 1:40 pm

        Very well explained, sir.. Any rebuttal to this response FROM THIS point forward could only can ONLY be an endorsement for ignorance, manufactured fear, My hat off to you..

  41. Janie Wilson
    March 15, 2011 at 6:05 pm


    I’ll grant you a point or two, but on this one I won’t: “The so-called ‘liberals’ don’t give any more of a shit about the white working class in this country than the so-called ‘conservatives’.” I am white and working class and a liberal. My dad worked in a garage and I had six siblings. I started working when I was 12 years old which puts my worklife over 45 years at this point. I’ve had some good years and I’ve had some years where my kids’ Christmas presents came from Goodwill. I do give a shit. But I also get very, very frustrated when I suggest to my working class friends that there might be a better way and then watch their faces go dead. This is when I politely shut up, but go away wondering if they can’t believe anything better is possible, or if they just feel so helpless that action is out of the question.

  42. Reda StCyr
    March 15, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    This is very powerful I sure most of the teabags hate this guy for exposing their warped views, even though in all honesty they have to admit everything he says is right on the mark!
    A shout out to this young man and I hope one day he will be able to get through to his dad whom I believe in spite of all the warts He loves!

  43. Baudelaire
    March 15, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Feingold might have been able to save this country, but I fear now all is lost. The best representative in Congress could not even hold his seat against the maelstrom of lies these monsters churn out.

  44. queeny
    March 15, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    1. Shit many people’s dad’s say. 2. Divide and conquer has totally worked. 3. I love this. And obviously this guy loves his dad, that is besides the point but quite clear. It is in fact a compassionate, and not contemptuous or patronizing view of his dad. 4. The world is fucked, but we had better keep trying to work it out.

    <3, from one more educated elitist with love for all, well almost all.

  45. antony field
    March 16, 2011 at 12:44 am

    I’m glad I live in Australia.

  46. Duke Piston
    March 16, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    The first part of the rant is basically just you filling out a template for a stereotype. Stereotypes are bad, remember? How can you ever engage people who disagree with you on these subjects if that’s how you view them? This is just the liberal version of a ‘Fox news’ rant. If we are the smart ones then let’s not make stereotypes. Also you are dishonoring your own dad in a public forum. Other than those points I agree with you.

    • Quinn
      December 4, 2011 at 2:22 pm

      I didn’t take from this at all.. No stereotypes are being issued here, not one.. Tea Party Supporters ARE predominately White males, we all know that.. and they are typically anti-intellectual, everything about this “movement” speaks to that my friend, you can not tip toe around issues as serious as these either.. it’s JUST as important as, what you seem to be suggesting is offending one’s sensibilities. The Information is not being presented responsibly, nor with ANY degree of truth.. i mean it is not even something left to interpretation.. their just plain not telling the truth, but doing so KNOWING these people aren’t going to take the time to read or dig deeper to refute/challenge the information. It is dishonest, mean-spirited, selfish, and manipulative.. the man used is father as an example, giving, as far as i am concerned, more credence to what he is saying. The tone of the article suggest no disdain for his father. As a matter of fact he begins speaking very highly of him. It is abundantly abundantly clear that he loves him very much , but understands that he is a PRODUCT of the very thing he is speaking about. What he’s saying is that his father is angry with the wrong people, that the misinformation he’s been fed and those he’s been influenced by are indeed his problem.

  47. Angry Owl
    March 16, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    Oh great here comes StormFarters stinking up the place.

  48. Nan
    March 16, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Hysterical how these lefty bloggers *always* “know a guy” who fits with uncanny precision into their sociopolitical stereotype, lol. Fascinating; these stereotypes *always* lend one hundred per cent credence to the left blogger’s twisted world view while being eerily reminiscent of characters we’ve seen in Hollywood’s latest left-leaning offering or in any of Oprah’s fiction faves. Tell ya what, lefties…we conservatives also “know a guy”…and OURS kicks the butt of YOURS no matter how many stories you make up. Ha!

    • hahawhat
      March 17, 2011 at 2:39 am

      My dad can beat up your dad.

    • July 9, 2012 at 1:42 pm

      Interesting. Your guy lost the Civil War. Your guy lost the battle to end slavery. Your guy lost the battle to give women the right to vote. Your guy lost the civil rights movement which led to the Civil Rights Act. Your guy lost the battle to keep women out of the military and then lost the battle to keep women out of military academies and combat roles. Your guy lost the battle to keep gay/lesbian service members from having to hide their personal lives or risk being thrown out of the military. Your guy lost when DADT was repealed.

      Shall I go on?

  49. KevinB
    March 17, 2011 at 2:35 am

    What is most interesting is how people, desiring to belong somewhere, will force themselves into conformity of some stereotype or another. You bet, much of this article is defining a stereotype, yet it is a very real description of the stereotype many non-thinking righties conform into.

  50. Sally C.
    March 17, 2011 at 11:11 am

    I find it sad because I actually know people like that. I have had to sit in restaurants with others who pointed out those of others races and called them derogatory names while we all eat the same food and live in the same areas. Very uncomfortable.

  51. Shaw
    March 17, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Spot on piece. Anyone offended by the language probably puts ketchup on their steak. One thing about the language though is that it makes the piece sound like a right-wing rant would. If we can’t criticize and argue (debate not quarrel) with these working class people without personal attacks (which is what they tend to do) we will never build any possible bridges for them to cross. For them to cross the bridge to our view point they have to be able to save face. Somehow we need to find a way for them to think it was their idea that they themselves figured out that its the plutocrats that are the root cause of our democracy problems not government, etc. Because without them there may not be enough collective political will to change our society. The plutocrats may have all the money, but we can have most all the people if we can politely and gently and even furtively educate our working class brothers. Engage in civil discourse were ever the opportunity presents itself. Leave the Tea Partier with the impression that you two may disagree but at least you were civil and listened (yes, this will try your patience, but seek first to understand [or at least feign to] then to be understood). Monitor your voice level. Educate yourself about publicly funded elections and plant these seeds in everyone. This is the only way to get our government. I didn’t say “get our government back” because we never truly had it. Many of our Framers were plutocrats. Voter-owned elections are the foot in the door of democracy (representative and participatory). By attacking the Republican Party and the culture war issues (guns, religion, abortion, etc.) we will just close their minds. Instead we must attack the plutocrats and the system that allows the concentration/centralization of wealth, business, media, and government. I wrote “the system.” What do I mean? The system that allows money to have political power and not people. A representative democracy and our Constitution states that the power resides in the people. All of the the people, not just the rich. Tell this to the people. White working class and otherwise.

  52. Sandman
    March 19, 2011 at 9:13 am

    As with religion so with politics…. the disconnect between the UK and US is at its most glaring in those two fields. In the UK a politician that mixes the two is automatically unelectable – the UK public are very secular, and distrust politicians that cite faith as a basis for politics.

    Also over here we know that “socialism” is NOT communism, not facism, and is GOOD for society. We dont do the idiot McCarthy/J E Hoover/Bircher dance of deception and selfishness. “Tax and Spend” is an acceptable policy, and can be seen to work when it is managed well. It means a social security welfare state for those who fall through the gaps, it means universal basic healthcare via the NHS, and it means workers rights.

    When it goes to tits it is always at the hands of our own version of the Republicans…the Conservative Party. Like your Reps our Cons are all WASP whitebread silver spoon NIMBYs from rich families and big business interests (with the occasional token ethnic MP thrown in to make it look otherwise), and like your Reps when elected they act as a privatisation wrecking ball that serves moneyed interests and big busines. The current government here is a one termer….they will be thrown out in the next election for gross mismanagement and stupidity (again).

    Here is the skinny:

    If you are GAY and vote Rep you are an idiot. The Reps couldnt make it clearer that they despise you for what you are, and will always do their damndest to keep you second class citizens with second class rights. Why vote for them?

    If you are an ETHNIC MINORITY and vote Rep you are an idiot. Again the Reps couldnt care less about you except for your vote. They are rich whitebread WASPS and you aint, and again the Reps will do sod all to work in your interest. They are xenophobic and support immigration bills that would, because of the colour of your skin, make you subject to street checks on your citizenship…and you vote for these people????

    If you are anything other than a CHRISTIAN and vote for the Reps you are an idiot. The Reps are right wing christano-facists who have a Dominionist theocratic agenda. They despise and want to criminalise being a Muslim, they hate Atheists, and laugh at other religions on a regular basis. so if you aint an evangelical Baptist sky fairy fan why the hell vote for them?

    If you are a WOMAN and vote Rep you are an idiot. Since being elected into office on a jobs jobs jobs basis the Reps have single mindedly persued an agenda that is blatantly anti womens rights. They intend defunding Planned Parenthood, and have submitted a raft of anti-abortion bills on a national and state level, some of which are so outragous even their own representatives vote against them. And so you voted Rep why….do you hate yourself so much?

    If you are a WORKER who actually does a real job for a living, ie doesnt regularly fly by Lear Jet and have Aides, then if you vote Rep you are an idiot. Reps represent the interests of two groups – the RICH and BIG BUSINESS. They despise any rights you may have and want them gone. They want your kids stupid and compliant so cut education, thus ensuring future generations of brain dead drone workers who put up with shitty conditions, crap wages, and shouldering all the tax burden. In the meantime thats what they inflict on YOU! They are making you all Koch Whores addicted to no education, faux news you must pay for, and a steady diet of fear, paranoia and misinformation. Why? Because poor, uninformed and fearful voters are easy to control.

    Guys come on. Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Florida…. how f**king clear does this have to be made?

    The Reps are all white elitist big business lovin worker hatin selfish stupid anti-intellectual scumbags who want a Brave New World style segregated society with them at the top as Alphas and all the rest of you at the bottom as good compliant Deltas. They put profit before welfare, social security, education, the environment you live in, food you eat, national security against disaster, and freedom of thought, practice and religion (or lack of it). They have turned politics into a quagmire of lies, deception and vested interests, fuelled by divisive policy and hidden agendas. If you vote for them you are either rich white hetrosexual protestant and male ……

    or an idiot…

    end of.

    And incidentally…. your so called Democrats seem to have become so wrapped up in spin they have also lost their way and backbone. Time to get them back on track now before they loose the next election to some retarded harpy from the back of beyond or cross burning Baptist birther mysoginist.

    Its your vote…. I suggest you think before you cast it next time.

    • March 19, 2011 at 4:35 pm

      Simply priceless! Very well said!

    • Peter
      March 19, 2011 at 6:03 pm

      The primary institution of redemption for the secularist is government.

  53. March 19, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    Great article..MUST reading for everyone Really expresses the frustration we have all felt with some of our friends who vote a straight Republican ticket even though they live well on Social Security, Medicare and programs the GOP wants to do away with.

  54. March 20, 2011 at 5:44 am

    i like it About family Who Vote Against Their justify Interests. « Al Stefanelli it or personal agent so that im your rss reader

  55. Leslie Montemayor
    March 25, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    I thought the article must be written by someone who is relatively young and hasn’t lived long enough yet to understand what they’re writing about. Just because you’re a liberal you think you care more about your fellow human beings. Well, no.
    Our government, Republicans, and Democrats, are all on the take. We are owned by corporate America, and yes the Democrats are on the take too. How do you think we got into this mess. The people are no longer being represented and the government is way too big and in our lives way too much.
    Our nation is in decline, no longer to be the superpower we once were. Wake up and smell the coffee!! It’s all of them pitting us against each other to distract us while they get richer.

    Read _Superclass_ then maybe you’ll understand.

  56. TWalker
    March 27, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Maybe if more people would get out and vote for what IS in their best interest, we would have more governors and legislatures that ARE for the good of the working class people. It’s disgraceful that so many don’t vote for so many rediculous reasons.

  57. Smitty
    March 28, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Every time I try to talk to my white working class brethren I get a diatribe of Fox talking points. Someone mentioned earlier that facts are irrelevant in these discussions and it is so true. A lot of these people are home schooling because of how awful the public schools are. No argument from me there, But they also do it because they don’t want their children falling prey to the “secular humanist liberals”. In doing so of course they just pass the indoctrination on and their children have even less of a chance to hear differing opinions and views. The right constantly pushes the idea that the schools are run by godless liberals who want push their “liberal agenda”. I find it interesting that after years of starving the schools that the W administration rolled out “No child left behind” with all of it’s unfunded mandates. The thing they did do though is set up a treadmill of standardized tests rather than facilitating true learning critical thinking etc. The teachers and schools get blamed if they don’t cut the mustard on the tests when really many of the problems go right back to the systematic gutting of public schools not to mention programs that support education and well roundedness. There is no band or art, and the sports programs are getting cut. Anything that would make learning exiting and fun is disappearing. And like everything else you can talk about everything except more money for the schools which keeps the downward spiral going. Liberals are painted as the enemy even though practically everything that has been beneficial to the working class in our history has come from liberal ideas and movements. Now some states want to dismantle integration.
    Lets remember one thing the last thing the masters of the universe want is an educated populace.

    • AllanW
      June 27, 2011 at 10:42 am

      Absolutely right; it’s not about ‘Left’ or ‘Right’ any more but about up and down.

  58. Bobbi Priest
    April 17, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Here’s my Patriarchy Poem #2 (updated)
    ‎”I swear…I declare y’all
    republicans and democrats
    capitalist corporate lackeys one and all
    pointing fingers and blaming the other side
    becoming more and more polarized
    I swear…I declare
    I am so bored of directors!
    235 years of pious pompous puffed-up
    pontificating old poops
    running the world
    into the ground
    shades of sadism
    lurking in the shadows
    of their psyches
    I swear…I declare
    it’s depressing…seeing the dark
    at the end of the Fox News tunnel
    day in and day out
    I swear…I declare
    I’m leaning more and more
    toward socialism, libertarianism and anarchy!
    give me liberty or give me death
    live free or die
    I swear”

  59. Buzzy
    June 26, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Just goes to prove the adage that people, in general, are painfully ignorant. Of course, when the education system has been gutted to keep us so (no sense cultivating great thinkers when they only need worker drones), the lowest common denominator just keeps getting lower.

    For a crappy movie, “Idiocracy” was sadly prophetic.

  60. robert ball
    July 13, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    you know for the party of toleranc

    e i sure hear alot of hate. as for the lets take all the rich folks money and give to those who have less it sounds great but u forget one thing their rich they dont have to invest money they can just sit on it then what u gonna do u cant take what they dont allow u to. and as for the nanny state just look at europe thats workin out real well but o wait i guess that the USA ‘s greed causing that i have no political party but im for less govrnment not more i guess that makes me a moron but id rather be a free moron than a smart man who has to have the govrnment tell me what to do and how to do it but as so many of u on here have put it im just a moron what do i know

  61. Gertie
    August 5, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Bloody Marxist, class war monger, stiring it up aren’t you?

    • August 8, 2011 at 8:05 am

      Actually, that would be “stirring,” with two “r”s.

      • Quinn
        December 4, 2011 at 1:54 pm

        hahahaha.. #pointproven

  62. Carlos Flores
    August 6, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Very brave author for letting us in on a situation so personal & great information. Great read!

  63. August 6, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Al, your Facebook buddy has a sharp eye for finding these brilliant nuggets of insight. Kudos to him. And to you, for sharing this with people. Here’s a HUGE irony. My relatives sound EXACTLY like this, only there’s a difference. They are very successful businesspeople, millionaires, in fact. They worked very hard to be where they are, no doubt, but the way they talk about their own employees, especially the kitchen staff who are minorities, is horrific. They sound just like this guy’s dad, and they are wallowing in money. My own family is not like my relatives; my parents are educators and I’d say upper middle class. We don’t throw our money around and I’d say my parents are pretty frugal. I cannot tell you how many times I have come close to telling off my relatives when they go off on one of those bigoted tirades. Another irony is that my dad and his brother (the millionaire) came to the US as immigrants. They came from Italy, got their citizen ship, now are Americans. And to hear my relatives talk, trashing minorities, immigrants, low-income workers makes my stomach turn.

  64. Cathy
    August 6, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    I know this guy…
    sadly I think we all do and the question becomes how do we over come this? wait for them to die out and try to keep a new crop from taking over? (sarah palin)
    I wonder how we can turn this country around and live in community with one another when there are so many that just don’t think that that is necessary for them…
    great article thanks

  65. Nelson Augustine
    August 7, 2011 at 11:45 am

    Ain’t that the truth and a stark reminder of everything George Dubbya stood for. It’s too bad Obama seems to have a similar reverence for the corporate structure, as evidenced in many of his official actions.

  66. August 9, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Well I have to say the person who wrote the letter must have grown up in my family. So much fear of anyone who’s different. Why?

  67. John Chrystal
    August 9, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    A scary, but accurate piece. This process, of people being manipulated to be against their own self interests was honed before the civil war, where the slave owning planter class convinced the poor whites (poor because the planters didn’t have to pay wages) to die by the tens of thousands for the very system that was keeping them essentially, serfs.

  68. olderworker
    August 20, 2011 at 10:08 am

    I beg to differ that all the controlling rich people are Caucasian — there are Cubanos and people from India, mostly male, who fit this description as well.

  69. September 18, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    Insofar as I can tell, the piece is pretty accurate … ordinary working-class Americans have voted against their own self-interest because the conservatives have wrapped themselves in the flag and are marching under the cross. This is what they euphemistically refer to as “family values” and many “conservative” voters have fallen for it consistently. There is justification to be concerned for the threat of a radical right-wing takeover of the sort that happened in Germany.

  70. Quinn
    December 4, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    This has not been explained better than this ANYWHERE. My hats off to you.. I am gonna post this EVERYWHERE!

  71. June 7, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Your old man is a fucking idiot. He would have to be to have failed so miserably in raising you.

  72. Focus
    June 30, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    “We will be told that WASPy private sector males are a persecuted minority. “

  73. August 17, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    I’ll stick with Molly Ivan (R.I.P.) who said she’d “rather burn the flag and wrap herself in the Constitution than burn the Constitution and wrap herself in the flag.”

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