Anti-Evolution Stickers Still In Alabama Science Books

My son asked me for help with his science homework.  Biology, to be specific. He is in tenth grade and they are about to study evolution.  His science teacher has told his class that she does not want to teach evolution, but she is being forced to.  This is Alabama, after all, so, naturally I took a special interest in helping him out with a high degree of accuracy.  I grab hold of his thick and well-worn science textbook with the intention of flipping it open to the chapter he is studying and upon opening the cover I noticed a long, large, white sticker on the inside with a small typeface and began to read it.  I am not sure when the drool started escaping from my gaping mouth, but it was long enough for my son to ask me if I was OK.  Of course, I knew about the stickers but, frankly, forgot about them as it had been a couple years since I had a child in tenth grade.  As I refamiliarized myself with the contents, the realization that they put adhesive on the back of a few sheets of used toilet paper all started coming back to me and I found myself becoming very angry at the utter ignorance that is being displayed by the Alabama Board of Education, as well as all the schoolteachers that “really don’t want to” be teaching it, but feel they are being “forced to”.

Alabama has decided that skewed reality and misinformation should be disseminated as genuine education, and as a result, the state continues to backtrack instead of moving forward. The support from the Alabama BOE, representatively, is part of the “god did it” crowd and is not only wasting valuable resources to print this adhesive toilet paper, but proudly marches on in lock-step ignorance to stymie whatever benefit might arise from a genuine science education. The fact that these stickers even exist is proof that the level of religious self-delusion that is represented in the Alabama Board of Eduction is alive and well and thus far enjoys a modicum of success in it’s efforts to prohibit the scientific advancement of a better, healthier and more tolerant society.  Children who are taught in high school that creationism is a valid explanation for all things scientific results in a vicious cycle of ignornace becuase their belief in creationism is carried all the way to the university level, which then graduates another round of ignorant high school teachers who only teach the absolute minimum requirements of evolution and have no problem letting their students know that they don’t accept evolution and don’t even want to teach it, but are forced to by law, such as is the case with my son’s teacher.

The Alabama Board of Eduction seeks to reduce science to religious concepts, including the use of the bible as the source of scientific hypotheses, theory and principle.  This includes “miracles” as part of the education process, which is very convenient because it removes the logical possibility for scientific investigation, thus perverting science into a laughable and largely inconceivable set of ridiculous improbabilities. Teaching creationism as a valid, scientific theory has caused Alabama to, yet agian, become one of the laughing stocks of the scientific community.  What they fail to realize is that no matter how loudly they scream, the bible is completely incompatible with the collective intelligence of the scientific community.  Creationism is beyond ridiculous and it is only through superstitious ignorance that an individual can believe that god created the entire universe in six days, less than ten thousand years ago and that man came into existence looking pretty much the same as we do now, but completely block out the scientifically, indisputably proven facts that make up the theory of evolution.

It is actually pretty easy to excuse the founders of Christianity for all the inaccuracies that are in the bible.  They knew nothing of science, but thier ignorance was subjective because the collective knowledge of all things scientific was practically non-existent two thousand years ago.  This is no longer the case, and the facts surrounding the theory of evolution have been proven over and over again, with quantitative and qualified verification from hundreds of disinterested sources over the last couple hundred years and has yet to be discredited, even under the harsh microscope that the scientific community uses to attempt to falisfy scientific theory.  The Alabama Board of Eduction, in their deciesion to place these desipicable stickers on our student’s science books is evidence of a level of ignorance that is more appropriate in a child’s belief that a fat man in a red suit comes down the chimneys of millions of homes, all in one night, delivering gifts that still have price tags on them from the local department store.

But science will march on, in spite of religion and in spite of the willful ignorance of those who would exchange the truth for a lie.  When I gaze upon the utter stupidityof those “evolution stickers” on my kid’s science books, it only serves to solidify my decision to be as outspoken, strident and visceral toward organized religion and thier quest to infect the minds of our  youth.  It gives me a renewed sense of purpose to try to organize as many of us non-believers as I possibly can and to encourage us to get more involved in the processes and venues that the religeous are using to appointment fundamentalist, superstitions, myth-believing people in positions that can systematically stonewall our children’s desire for genuine scientific research and detrimentally effect their education in general.

For those of you who are interested, here is a rather poor picture of the sticker in question.  I apologize for the poor quality, but the book and sticker are not in very good condition. The context of the sticker is written blow, word for word:

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Here is what the sticker says, if you cannot read it:

“The word “theory” has many meanings.  Theories are defined as systematically organized knowledge, abstract reasoning, a speculative idea or plan, or a systematic statement of principles.  Scientific theories are based on both observations of the natural world and assumptions about the natural world.  They are always subject to change in view of new and confirmed observations.

Many scientific theories have been developed over time.  The calue of scientific work is not only the development of theories but also what is learned from the development process.  The Alabama Course of Study: Science, includes many theories and studies of scientists work.  The work of Copericus, Newton and Einstien, to name a few, has provided a basis of our knowledge of the world today.

The theory of evolution by natural selection is a controversial theory that is included in this textbook.  It is controversial because it states that natural selection provides the basis for the modern scientific explanation for the diversity of living things.  Since natural selection has been observed to play a role in influencing small changes in a population, it is assumed that it produces large changes, even though this has not been directly observed. Because of it’s importance and implications, students should understand the nature of evolutionary theories.  They should learn to make distinctions between the multiple meanings of evolution, to distinguish between observations and assumptions used to draw conclusions, and to wrestle with the unaswmered questions and unresolved problems still faced by evolutionary theory.

There are many unanswered questions about the origin of life.  With the explosion of new scientific knowledge in biochemical and molecular biology and exciting new fossil discoveries, Alabama students may be among those who use their understanding and skills to contribute to knowledge and to answer many unanswered questions.  Instructional material associated with controversy should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully and critically considered”

Feel free to cut out the picture of the sticker, crumple it up until it is nice and soft, and keep it in your bathroom for those times when you find yourself staring at an empty roll of toilet paper.

  58 comments for “Anti-Evolution Stickers Still In Alabama Science Books

  1. August 24, 2010 at 8:16 am

    That is scary stuff.

    The eloquently written last paragraph, word for word, should be pasted to the front of every Bible.

    • Jacob Nummy
      December 14, 2011 at 1:06 am

      Dan, your statement is not very well thought out. Evolution, no matter if you like it or not, is a THEORY. Science is defined and determined by what can be proven through observation and experimentation . There are six different types of evolution (cosmic, chemical, stellar, organic, macro, and micro evolution) only micro evolution has ever been observed. If you choose to BELIEVE that the rest of these are true, that is perfectly acceptable, but when you do that you leave the realm of science and enter the area of personal beliefs. It is not acceptable to teach these theories as scientific facts in schools that are funded by tax-payers money, and that fact alone is why your statement about “pasting these stickers to the front of ever bible” is irrelevant because tax payers money is not being used to teach anyones child creationism.

      • Harry
        December 5, 2012 at 10:15 am

        How gravity works is a “theory” too. If you doubt it does I invite you to climb a tall building and test it. (For some added fun pray before you jump) People who try to discredit evolution because it’s a “theory” only show that they don’t understand what a scientific theory is.

  2. August 24, 2010 at 8:17 am

    Hi there. The only point that should be made on this topic is that science never tries to censor religion, so why does religion try to censor science?? Good read.

    • Think Logically
      August 4, 2012 at 10:18 pm

      Actually, it’s the other way around. You declare yourselves right without letting us explain ourselves. We’re perfectly happy to believe you if you gave us any reliable evidence. God is very finicy about leaving evidence of himself yet we still have more proof than evolution.

      For exa:mple:

      http://www.bibleprobe.org/objections/

      • December 5, 2012 at 9:52 am

        Your posting name is kind of an oxymoron. The “evidence” you cite as being proof that your god exists and creationism is a viable explanation for life on this planet is not formulated by any reliable method of collecting facts. It is based on words written by men, translated by men, and repeated over the centuries. Have you ever played the game grapevine as a child? It’s the game where one child starts by whispering a sentence to his/her neighbor and that sentence is passed down a long line of kids finally being repeated out loud by the last child in the row. The sentence has, inevitably, been completely changed by the end. This happens in a matter of minutes – what do you think would happen repeating a story (translated into multiple languages with an inherent error probability due to the complications in switching words from one language into another language) over the course of centuries?
        As for proof of evolution – there are mounds of reliable evidence. Reported, observed FACTS that have been documented that show that the theory of evolution is a more feasible/reasonable explanation for the variety of organisms on the planet than the myth of creationism.
        Oh, and FYI – spell check is another good thing developed through scientific methods. (finicky – not finicy)

  3. Heather
    August 24, 2010 at 8:32 am

    This is just awful.. I’m so sorry that you have to live in a place like this or that your kids must endure an “education” like that. We need more people like you in the creationist states to stand up for the children and for science.

  4. August 24, 2010 at 9:25 am

    Al, not all Southern States put up with that sticker on Science books.

    Federal Judge nixes evolution textbook stickers
    Disclaimer questioning theory ruled unconstitutional.

    A federal judge ordered the school system to remove stickers from its high school biology textbooks that call evolution “a theory, not a fact,” saying the disclaimers are an unconstitutional endorsement of religion.

    “By denigrating evolution, the school board appears to be endorsing the well-known prevailing alternative theory, creationism or variations thereof, even though the sticker does not specifically reference any alternative theories,” U.S. District Judge Clarence Cooper said.

  5. nick miner
    August 24, 2010 at 9:48 am

    It’s a good thing the majority of people never read warning labels.

    • June Maxwell
      August 24, 2010 at 12:32 pm

      What a well-written piece. It must be endlessly frustrating to live in an area ruled by ignoramuses like the Alabama BOE – I wish you well in your endeavours and commiserations!

  6. August 24, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Toilet paper…that is about all that piece of trash sicker is good for!

  7. August 24, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    via Steven K. Roberts, an ntidote to stick on their bibles:

    WARNING: This is a work of fiction. Do NOT TAKE it literally.

    CONTENT ADVISORY:
    …Contains verses descriptive or advocating suicide, incest, bestiality, sadomasochism, sexual activity in a violent context, murder, morbid violence, use of drugs or alcohol, homosexuality, voyeurism, revenge, undermining of authority figures, lawlessness and human rights violations and atrocities.

    EXPOSURE WARNING:
    Exposure to contents for extended periods of time or during formative years in children may cause delusions, hallucinations, decrease cognitive and objective reasoning abilities, and in extreme cases, pathological disorders, hatred, bigotry, violence including but not limited to fanaticism, murder and genocide.

    • msdchem
      November 21, 2010 at 10:07 am

      I love your warning label. I’m going to print them on stickers and placing them in hotel Bibles. Thanks for sharing.

  8. August 24, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    High school biology textbooks do not have near enough info on evolution. When I was in high school in the mid 1960s, any info on evolution was at the very end of the book – which we conveniently never made it to during the school year.

  9. Sandman
    August 25, 2010 at 5:57 am

    Face…palm…SLAP!!!!!

    Al thanks for this timely reminder on the stupidity of the system. I know you yanks luuuurve those so called freedoms, even when your freedom pretzels choke you to death……but heres just a couple of suggestions from the sane side of the Atlantic.

    1) Having state by state law making opens up your systems to this stupidity. Its one of the dumbest ideas ever. One America, One Constitution, ONE SET OF LAWS…. you do get that dont you? No? Why not – everywhere else seems to. Or are you lot too thick and deluded by the freedoms spin that you cant see why having 50 different legal systems is just plain DUMB? That it provides creationists, religous facists and all cranks with a piss weak system open to abuse?

    Its like building a 50 link anchor chain, then hacksawing out all the link closure welds and expecting your boat still to be there in the morning.

    These stickers have been deemed illegal in some state courts, but are still used in the Axis of Shitkicker states….seeing the problem yet or do I have to draw you dimwits a frickin picture?

    2) Education is NOT democratic. It is NOT a political football. It is NOT something you leave in the hands of the LEAST qualified retards and shitkickers to decide on. State by state education standards and local school boards just means some get better than others just because of where they live.

    Could someone point out the bit of the Constitution that says “Im Alright Jack Fuck You!”???

    You dont ask a Dentist to fix a broken down car. You dont ask a Dentist to carry out an open heart operation…so why the fuck do you ask a Dentist, a Pastor or Joe the Frickin Plumber to decide on what your kids learn? Education experts are who you put in charge…and ONE government department of experts, not 50. That way your kids learn facts not superstitions, and ALL American public school kids get the same basic education.

    Over here we call that a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. Its why we have NATIONAL curricula. FAIRNESS….y know that value you yanks so luuuuurve to waffle on about whilst doing exactly the opposite.

    Now, sorry if that sounds a bit strident or commy for you, but the fact is your political and educational systems are being destroyed, and this isnt what the founders would have wanted. They wrote that stuff 250 years ago in a whole different time and place. Your country has grown up but your politcal and legal systems havent, and now you are reaping the results in bucketloads.

    Stop draping yoursleves in the flag and with teary eye trumpeting those freedoms…cos they aint. It isnt democracy, its demo-crazy. They re causing more harm than good…and its time for a change. Grow up and become ONE nation, or watch your loose confederation of increasingly lamed and limpy states suffer while the religious right rub their hands with glee and their lawyers laugh all the way to the bank….at YOUR expense.

    Pax my over democratised cousins.

  10. Sandman
    August 25, 2010 at 6:06 am

    One more point – Al here is dicussing what his 15 to 16 year old 10th grader son is learning.

    My 12 year old nephew, thanks to his English national curriculum education, is not only fully conversant with the basics of evolution, he can set out in basic terms the framework and especially the role of transitional fossils in establishing it as fact. He uses Darwins finches and tortoises as examples of it in action.

    He also thinks anyone who disagrees with it is stupid.

    Know any 12 year olds over there who can do that?

    No…thought not.

    • Kaylarae
      March 22, 2011 at 12:30 pm

      I do believe location within the United States is an important factor. We cannot forget this sticker is found in Alabama textbooks, and Alabama is part of the ‘Bible Belt’ group of states. I’m from Michigan, and we never were taught to consider Evolution as anything but a universally accepted scientific theory based on evidence and fact (and by theory, I mean the scientific definition of theory, not the pop-culture definition where is a theory is something that can be easily proven wrong). I started learning about Evolution in elementary school, and religion and creationism were a non-issue in my classes, never discussed because we as students knew that there is no scientific basis in creationism or intelligent design.

      It might be good to take a closer look at the importance of the religiosity of a state when evaluating what the average American student is learning. I feel (at the very least, hope) that this sticker is the exception.

      • Enternal-Life
        May 12, 2011 at 4:54 pm

        Microevolution are changes in the gene pool that do not create new genes. That is every gene in the new gene pool has a similar function and purpose in the original gene pool. A gene that is altered by mutations, but maintains its original function and purpose is called an allele. Alleles are different variations of the same gene. Microevolution creates new alleles. It does not create new genes. Macroevolution: changes in the gene pool that create new genes. Since new organs and structures require new genes, any evolutionary transition that involves a new structure or organ is an example of macroevolution. This extrapolation is very hard to justify when microevolution is extended to explain the origin of new organs or structures. Since the evolution of new organs and structures requires new genes, microevolution can only be extended to explain macroevolution if the processes responsible for new alleles can also create new genes. Creating a new gene with a new function is clearly different than optimising a gene without changing its function (creating a new allele). So the first and foremost question at hand is can the processes that create new alleles also create new genes? Existing genes are not free to evolve into new genes.

        FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A VAST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHIHUAHUA AND A GREAT DANE BUT THEY ARE STILL DOGS. TRUE THAT BOTH ARE ON THE OUTSIDE EDGE OF THIS GENE POOL, BUT NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO GO FURTHER EVEN BY DESIGN. IF MAN CAN NOT DO THIS BY SCIENTIFIC SELECTIVE BREEDING THEN CERTAINLY A DOG COULD NOT EVOLVE INTO A CAT OR A RABBIT OR ANYTHING ELSE BUT REMAINS A DOG. THUS, SCIENCE ITSELF REBUTS THE THEORY THAT MACROEVOLUTION IS A SCIENCE AND SHOWS THE ERROR IN ANY SUCH REASONING THAT IT IS TRUE.

        • May 12, 2011 at 4:58 pm

          My previous comment stands. Evolution, both macro and micro, has been proved for quite some time now. Keep up…

  11. August 25, 2010 at 9:53 am

    Well, Sandman, we like doing stupid stuff – like haveing state license plates on our cars instead of federal license plates.

    We also like our state taxes being used in our state instead of someone else’s state but that just goes to show how dumb we are.

    Not only that but our states are divided up into counties and in those counties are several school districts – and cities. So, we also have county and city taxes, which we like to be used in our county and in our city instead of someone else’s county or city. How selfish of us.

    Our country is also divided into 4 time zones, so that when it is bedtime on the east coast the sun is still up on the west coast. It has been so hard to control the rotation of the earth so that we can all enjoy the exact same time on our clocks.

    Yes, we do have federal constitutional law but we also have constitutional rights – like freedom of religion. This sometimes gets a little mixed up in some yokel’s mind and they think evolution violates that right in his school district or state. So, they go to court (eventually) and lose.

    The folks in that state or school district learn a valuble but expensive lesson about who they should be electing to government offices in their state

  12. August 27, 2010 at 12:41 am

    A+ would read again

  13. the anti_supernaturalist
    August 31, 2010 at 11:07 am

    Junk food faith for a fat head nation

    The US a nation overwhelmingly god-fearing
    overwhelmingly rejects science. Millions lack an intelligence sufficiently educated and critical to reject the unctuous Fundie Fare they stuff into their brains.

    True believers across the US demand that scientific knowledge should be dictated by some ideology rooted in 16th century Protestantism, or 13th century Catholicism, or 12th century Islam.

    For these 21st century iPad consumers and Twitter users, technology is Cargo Cult — magic devices created by the ancestors and delivered by ghosts to an Apple Store.

    As consolation, the US is the grossest outlier among developed nations in its affinity for religious enthusiasms and in its failure to accept now elementary basic truths like evolution via natural selection*.

    Consumption of junk food faith leads directly to intellectual blockage, gastric self-righteousness, and boundless ego inflation.

    Surely fundie prayers have been answered: Super size me Jesus!

    the anti_supernaturalist

    *Note: Live Science web site shows that Turkey is the only country out of 34 listed whose anti-evolution ideology is as ingrained as in the US. http://www.livescience.com Search term: chart acceptance evolution

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  15. humanape
    October 3, 2010 at 11:55 am

    “His science teacher has told his class that she does not want to teach evolution, but she is being forced to.”

    You have of course visited your son’s school administration and you have demanded that his idiot science teacher be fired for incompetence. Right? You did that, didn’t you?

    Of course you demanded that she be fired. Certainly you wouldn’t be silent about a Christian retard who doesn’t know anything about science being allowed to teach science.

    The sticker is illegal. I assume you also complained about that and demanded they respect the law.

    http://darwin-killed-god.blogspot.com/

  16. January 4, 2011 at 7:46 am

    i have been teaching environmental science for 20 years. i remind the fundies that gravity is really still “just” a theory, though we call it a law, because our physics folks still aren’t exactly sure how it works. then i invite them to step off the nearest cliff if gravity is “just” a theory. no takers yet, but one can hope, hahahaha!

  17. Enternal-Life
    May 12, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    “Evolution” is a misleading worD as generally used as there is mircroevolution which is a science and truth – then there is marcroevolution, which is not a science but only a weak theory. There being no proof that Macroevolution has ever occurred, you have to have faith that it did without proof – hence macroevolution is a religion.

    Traditionally, microevolution is defined as evolution within a species. That is microevolution involves small changes that do not create new species. There is proof of this and hence it is a science. On the other hand, macroevolution theorists claims that new species have occurred. There is no proof that this has occurred and thus you have to have faith it did occur. Hence macroevolution is a religion.

    THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY PROOF THAT ONE KIND OF ANIMAL HAS CHANGED INTO ANOTHER TYPE. A CHIHUAHUA AND A GREAT DANE ARE A LOT DIFFERENT BUT BOTH ARE STILL DOGS. THAT’S WHY IT’S CALLED A MISSING LINK – THE TRUTH OF HE MATTER IS THAT IT IS A NON-EXISTENT LINK AND THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY PROOF AS THIS NEVER OCCURRED AND WILL NEVER OCCUR.

    • May 12, 2011 at 4:46 pm

      You have no idea what you are talking about. Almost everything you have written is wrong on so many levels, I am not even going to waste my time trying to educate you. It’d be like trying to teach calculus to a toaster.

  18. Enternal-Life
    May 12, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Evolution (meanings macro evolution) is make believe. Evolutionists give our kids millions of examples of micro evolution and try to make them believe in macro evolution, and that is where it gets deceptive. Macro evolution is a fantasy. It’s based upon imagination. We’ve never seen it in nature. Can’t find any fossil evidence of it. You can’t even imagine how it could happen. It’s just a fantasy; but they will give the kids millions of examples of micro evolution and try to make them believe in macro evolution, which has only been assumed – it has never been observed. It’s a religious world view.

    • May 12, 2011 at 5:12 pm

      Dude, you are clueless. Please stop. You are only succeeding in making yourself look like an idiot. Read about it from a real science book. Sounds like you are pulling this shit directly from Ken Ham’s website.

      • Enternal-Life
        May 12, 2011 at 6:05 pm

        WHO????? See “ORIGINS: How the World Came to Be” by Ernest Wilder-Smith, Ph.d, University of Reading, Eng, Physical Organic Chemistry; D.S.c, U. of Geneva, Pharmacologists; Author of over 70 publications and more than 30 books. A NATO 3 Star General;

        Also, I read articles by:

        Dr. John R. Baumgardner, Geophysicist, B.S. Electrical engineering, Ph.D. and M.S. in geophysics and space physics from UCLA (1983, 1981)
        M.S. in electrical engineering from Princeton University (1970) B.S. in electrical engineering from Texas Tech University (1968) TERRA code chief developer; Technical staff member in the theoretical division of Los Alamos National Laboratory
        Adjunct faculty for Institute for Creation Research, Santee, California

        Also: To name a few others: Dr Ian Macreadie (Molecular Biologist and Microbiologist); Dr. Robert Gentry (nuclear physicist); Dr Raymond V. Damadian – Inventor of the MRI (magnetic resonance imaging);

  19. Enternal-Life
    May 12, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Many evolutionists have been proved as frauds and liars
    1. The Neanderthal Fraud: From my research I discover that Neanderthal remains were first believed to have found in France in 1908. Evolutionists claim when first found that hey were ape-like, stooped over and knuckle walking and ingorant. However, scientific discovery revealed that they were just as human as us, and their stooped appearance was because of arthritis and rickets. They were in fact very skillful hunters, even some surgeons, who believed in the after life. (See: “Upgrading Neanderthal Man”, Time Magazine, May 17, 1971, Vol. 97, No. 20)

  20. Enternal-Life
    May 12, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    For those who want to read the truth:

    Great books by Dr. Ernest Wilder-Smith
    (Ph.d, University of Reading, Eng, Physical Organic Chemistry; D.S.c, U. of Geneva, Pharmacologists; Author of over 70 publications and more than 30 books. A NATO 3 Star General)

    See these books:

    1. The Origin of the Universe

    Did our universe result from a “Big Bang” or a Creator? The cosmos is degenerating into disorder – not evolving upward. / Demonstrates the impossibility of Evolution.

    20 The Earth, A Young Planet?

    Is Earth really billions of years old? / Exposes the errors and assumptions of popular age estimation methods / There is much scientific evidence that our Earth may be young!

    3) The Origin of Life

    Did life begin by Evolution? Even the simplest cell could never evolve by natural processes / Leaves audiences in awe of the Creator’s power and wisdom!

    4) The Origin of Species

    Are all creatures just branches on an Evolutionary tree? Can any natural process, including mutations, cause Evolution? Partially filmed in Darwin’s own home.

    5) The Origin of Mankind

    Are there any apes in man’s ancestry? / Scientific evidence dispels this myth / Uncovers the mistakes, hoaxes, and misinformation about “missing links.”

    6) The Fossil Record

    What do most fossils really prove? They support Creation and contradict Evolution. / Many geological formations, including the Grand Canyon, resulted from Noah’s flood

    • May 13, 2011 at 11:24 am

      The only reason I don’t delete the pile of shit you have posted is because I don’t believe in censorship. Macroevolution has been proved, period, end of story. I am not going to counter-point you or even debate on the subject because it will be like answering a conspiracy theorist who doesn’t believe that the US ever landed on the moon.

      • Enternal-Life
        May 14, 2011 at 1:17 pm

        Thank you for not deleting my comments. And now your web site has some lively discussion. It was beginning to die before my comments.

  21. May 12, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    It really should be against the law to teach such ignorance as a young earth, creationism and a worldwide flood. It’s no wonder the USA is falling so far behind the rest of the world in scientific knowledge. If one wonders why their medical specialist down at the hospital has a foreign name, like Wong or Martinez, that’s it.

    • May 12, 2011 at 7:15 pm

      I am not even going bother arguing with this guy. He is clueless and I have better things to do, like take a dump.

      • Enternal-Life
        May 13, 2011 at 9:06 am

        Al, you say that macroevolution has been proven. I have given you my sources which show that it has never been proven. Also, my scources show that it has never been observed. From those sources of Scientists I have listed, the only thing evolutionists have shown is that there is an inference that Macroevolution has occurred. I would be glad to read your scientific sources that show one kind of animal has changed into another kind. Also, let me know who has seen this in action, e.g. that one kind of animal changed into another kind. Also, let me know who has proven this in a laboratory setting. From everyting I have read, this has not has it ever been done int he lab. And, the very definition of science means that a process must be analyzed, tested, observed, seen, and that the process is repeatable. Since this has never been proven to have occurred, then Macroevolution requires a blind faith, and a biased interpretation of data that surely has been interpreted in a different and more believable way. In fact, a truthful investigation of the evolution theory has long ago been proven as false. Thus, scientific sources
        has proven the theory of Macroevolution should have died in light of proof to the contrary. Thus, the theory of evolution should have been trashed in the last century.

        Al, give me your sources. Also, let me hear your “voice of reason”. I will listen and look at your sources.

        • Duncan Godfrey
          December 5, 2012 at 9:49 am

          E-L. Here is one of many sources easily found explaining Macroevolution.

          http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

          And here’s a quote to get you started:

          “The worldwide scientific research community from over the past 150 years has discovered that no known hypothesis other than universal common descent can account scientifically for the unity, diversity, and patterns of terrestrial life. This hypothesis has been verified and corroborated so extensively that it is currently accepted as fact by the overwhelming majority of professional researchers in the biological and geological sciences (AAAS 1990; AAAS 2006; GSA 2009; NAS 2005; NCSE 2012; Working Group 2001). No alternate explanations compete scientifically with common descent, primarily for four main reasons: (1) so many of the predictions of common descent have been confirmed from independent areas of science, (2) no significant contradictory evidence has yet been found, (3) competing possibilities have been contradicted by enormous amounts of scientific data, and (4) many other explanations are untestable, though they may be trivially consistent with biological data.”

  22. Enternal-Life
    May 13, 2011 at 9:27 am

    The Piltdown Man fraud: Piltdown Man aka Dawson’s dawn man being, Eoanthropus dawsoni, fossil remains was discovered in England ca 1910–1912. However, this was proven later to be fraudulent. Before discovered to be fruadulent, it was one of the most successful hoaxes in the history of science.

    THE HOAX: Evolutionist claimed that the fossils were a previously unknown species of extinct hominid (E. dawsoni) that could be the missing evolutionary link between apes and early humans. These claims were proven wrong. This occurred in 1953 – 1954, as an intensive scientific reexamination of the Piltdown remains showed them to be the skillfully disguised fragments of a quite modern human cranium, which was about 600 years old – the jaw and teeth were that of an orangutan and all fraudulently introduced into the shallow gravel pits there in that part of England. Chemical tests revealed that the fragments had been deliberately stained, some with chromium and others with acid iron sulfate solution and neither chromium nor sulfate occurs in the localion there remains were supposedly found. The teeth was proven to have been subjected to artificial abrasion to simulate the human mode of natural teeth wearing from use.

  23. Enternal-Life
    May 13, 2011 at 9:57 am

    Al, are you still in the bathroom????? LOL.

    • May 13, 2011 at 11:21 am

      Real Christian of you, there, EL. Mocking my disabilities. Fuck off.

      • Think Logically
        August 4, 2012 at 10:04 pm

        just answer his (her?) question.

  24. May 13, 2011 at 10:36 am

    this whole nonsense should have stopped when Douglas J. Futuyma wrote “Science on Trial: The Case for Evolution” in 1983. as a science and safety teacher for over 20 years, the fact that this Scopes bullshit is still going on makes me want to load up all the nutjobs onto spaceships and send them off to colonize Venus. Mars is MINE.

  25. May 13, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    I love how people such as “Eternal-Life” will often pick the flaws with the theory of evolution…but when encountered with the many many flaws of the Bible…they are adamant in its truth. Such double standards.

    I ask him but one question tho, does he/she want to believe in creationism…or does he/she really want to find out the true nature of the Universe and our own origins as a species within it?

  26. May 13, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    another good book is “The Holographic Universe” by Michael Talbot. explains a lot, even of paranormal stuff. and one thing is that the non-thinking spouters of other people’s opinions love to use the word “theory.” well, evolution has stepped beyond that, and is considered a natural “law” at this point. GRAVITY, since even Einstein couldn’t figure out how it worked, or anyone since, is still a “theory.” anyone who disputes scientific theories is invited to step off a cliff while i tilt a glass of cabernet and watch, laughing.

    • Enternal-Life
      May 14, 2011 at 10:57 am

      I will need a year and a day to meet your challenge. In a way, like the Green Knight came to King Author, I come with a Holly Bob. But a peace that is past all worldly understanding. And certainly it is paranormal. A challenge to everthing this world system believes. It is of a higher form of life. With powers beyond any human imagination.

      Jesus answered and said to them, “Go and tell John the things which you hear and see: The blind see and the lame walk; the lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear; the dead are raised up and the poor have the gospel preached to them. Matthew 11:2-19, 14:1-12 ; Mark 6:14-29; Luke 7:18-35 (A message from Christ to John the Baptist, who lost his head to King Herod)

      “12Now if Christ is preached, that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised; 14and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain. 15Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we testified against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised;” 1 Corinthians 15:12-15
      …19If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most misearable. 20But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep.” 1 Cor. 19-20

  27. Enternal-Life
    May 14, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Another good book by Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1727)is
    Principia Sir Isaac Newton wrote in Principia, 1687:
    “This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent Being…
    All variety of created objects which represent order and life in the universe could happen only by the willful reasoning of its original Creator, whom I call the Lord God.”

    In Optics, 1704, Newton wrote:

    “God in the beginning formed matter.”

    in which Newton states: “The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion on an intelligent and powerful Being.”

    • Enternal-Life
      May 14, 2011 at 11:29 am

      Sir Isaac Newton (born 1n 1642 died March 20, 1727);

      Newton discovered calculus, the laws of gravity and built the first reflecting telescope.

      Regarding the Bible, Newton wrote:

      “The system of revealed truth which this Book contains is like that of the universe, concealed from common observation yet the labors of the centuries have established its Divine origin.”

      In A Short Scheme of the True Religion, Sir Isaac Newton wrote:

      “Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors.”

  28. Enternal-Life
    May 14, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    For those interested in the paranormal, I suggest the book “Murder in Coweta County” by Margaret Barnes and TV Movie “Murder in Coweta County” staring Andy Griffith as John Wallace and Johnny Cash as Sheriff Lamar Potts. Mayhayley Lancaster is an intriging figure. The Book about her, Oracle of the Ages, is also spell binding. Murder in Coweta County is a based on a true story about the murder of Wilson Turner by John Wallace, which occurred in 1947, very close to where I was born and raised.

  29. Enternal-Life
    May 14, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    An very interesting set of videos is by Detroit’s Bob Dukto, who hosts “The Bob Dukto Show.” He has an intriging theory about dinosaurs. (the name was conined in by British Anatomist Richard … “dinosaur”, from the Greek “deinos”, meaning great or terrible…..and “sauros” meaning lizard). And, before 1841 the word “dinosaur” didn’t exist.) Dukto’s theory is that dinosaurs survived and was on the boat with Noah. He believes, in history after the flood Dinosaurs are called dragons because the word Dinosaur did not exixt. He maintains that they are distinct because man hunted them down and killed them after the great flood. That they grew so big because they are lizards and that some lizards like Iguanas do not stop growing. That there are drawings depicting Dinosaurs all over the ancient world (e.g. in ancient cave drawings). This is in his interesting video entitled “Top Ten Proofs: Dinosaurs Lived With Man (and yes, went on Noah’s Ark)” which is part of his series subtitled “Top Ten Proofs” by Dukto.

  30. May 14, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Enternal (didn’t you mean “Eternal”),

    The stories in Genesis are allegory (Gal. 4:24). They have to do with the old covenant – the Law of Moses (Gal. 4:21-26).

    An ark is not a boat, Noah’s ark is an allegory of the ark of the covenant (Gen. 6:18) made with Israel. The allegory is saying (to the Jews) that all outside of the covenant are lost. Remember, Genesis is a book of Moses too and is part of the Pentateuch, the five books called the Law of Moses.

    • Enternal-Life
      May 16, 2011 at 10:41 am

      Yes. A wonderful Allegory about the difference between law and grace. Fannie Crosby is a good example of God’s grace. In 1820, blinded at 6 weeks old when she was treated by a country doctor for a cold in her eyes by mustard poultice that blinded her for life. Saved by grace, she was visiting a prison, when one of the prisoners shook his bars and called out to her, “While on others thou are calling do not pass me by.” She went home that night and wrote “Pass me not O Gentile Savior, hear my humble cry.” She went on to the be the most prolific gospel song writer in history. She once said, “Mother Fanny once said, “Mother, if I had a choice, I would still choose to remain blind . . . for when I die, the first face I will ever see will be the face of my blessed Saviour.” She lived to be 95 years.

  31. Morticia1969
    September 14, 2011 at 1:58 am

    Well…I grew up in Alabama and attended public schools there all the way though twelfth grade. I had no idea such a sticker even existed! I really do not know what to say about that…it makes our state look very strange. Was such a sticker present in the late 1980s? Wow…just…wow.

  32. think logically
    July 19, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    I don’t recall that sticker saying anything about God, only reminding us of the redundancy that the theory of evolution is a theory. If it was or is ever definitively proven it would be the biggest news story ever.

    • Sebastien
      December 5, 2012 at 10:24 am

      No scientific theory can ever be proven. The only thing you can do is collect facts, check that they agree with the theory, and if they don’t then you have to modify the theory or possibly come with a brand new one that explains the facts. Of course, such theories can only be based on mechanisms that can be tested and reproduced.
      Nobody ever saw an atom. Still, we do not re-discuss the whole thing before every chemical reaction we make. We stick on Bohr’s atomic theory, and for the past century it could explain and predict all observation we made. The same is true for every physical law or natural principle we came with.
      If we have to stop teaching our kids about the most up-to-date scientific theories by fear that one day the prove inaccurate or wrong, then no progress will ever be made.
      I’m glad to be European. You Alabama guys are really acting strange…

  33. Sebastien
    December 5, 2012 at 10:16 am

    The problem is that it is well written and despite the fact that I am a biologist I cannot find anything wrong with the sticker. Indeed we scientists should keep an open mind and indeed scientific theories that were perfectly sound at some point turned out untrue with the collection of new facts.
    What is not said in the sticker is that to understand the world, you need a model. This model is called a “theory”. So far, natural selection is the best theory we have and it explains all the observation we can make about the natural world. It is not true that only microevolution has been observed…
    Now, if this sticker is used to promote religious views it is of course totally unacceptable.

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