All homosexuals should be castrated – Rev. Billy Graham

Homosexuals are brute beasts…part of a vile and satanic system that will be utterly annihilated, and there will be a celebration in heaven.” – Jerry Falwell

“As a mother, I know that homosexuals cannot biologically reproduce children; therefore, they must recruit our children.” Anita Bryant

“Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals — the two things seem to go together” – Pat Robertson

“Homosexuals are weak, morally sick wretches.” – Senator Jesse Helms

“Oh, you’re one of the sodomites. You should only get AIDS and die, you pig. How’s that?” – Michael Savage

Need I go on?  The attitude towards Homosexuals and homosexuality by some very powerful and influential people, both past and present is atrocious.  The fact that this attitude is borne from religion, particularly the Abrahamic religions, and is supported by hundreds of millions of individuals is terrifying to homosexuals and horrifying to anyone who has an ounce of understanding about human biology, genetics and the animal kingdom in general.  Yes, there still exists some debate amongst the scientific community as to the origin of sexual orientation, but scientists do not insult, discriminate, injure or kill each other for disagreeing. They just keep on researching.  Religionists do not offer the same courtesy.  The reason why verbal and physical attacks against homosexuals are defined as hate crimes is for the same reason similar attacks against particular people groups are.  You cannot change who you are and should not ever be in fear of your safety or life because of it.

So, nature or nurture? The question on the table is whether or not people born straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender.  The search for a definitive answer needs to remain within the bounds of the sciences, and not within the pages of the bible or the koran.  The scientific community recognizes that genetics play a significant role in determining sexual orientation, that one’s sexual orientation is natural.  This is known as the “argument from nature”.  Those who believe that human sexuality is determined by personal experiences is known as the “argument from nurture”.

Let’s get a little perspective on the veracity of these two arguments.  The nature argument is based on the latest, most advanced cutting edge science.  The nurture argument is based on a twenty-three-hundred-year-old philosophical belief known as tabula rosa, put forth by Aristotle, which suggests that personality and behavioral traits are entirely learned and that all of us start off in this world with a clean, blank slate with respect to personality.  Latest science vs. ancient philosophy.  Let’s examine this a little deeper.

First, some information from science and research. The argument from nature is being accepted more readily in the scientific community due to the increasing evidence that sexual orientation develops before birth. Here are just a few examples of those who support that homosexuality is genetically dispositional:

  • Author and respected geneticist Matt Ridley states that, “Nobody in science now believes that sexual orientation is caused by events in adolescence…Homosexuality is an early, probably prenatal and irreversible preference.
  • The Royal College of Psychiatrists stated, “Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heterosexual or homosexual orientation. It would appear that sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment. Sexual orientation is therefore not a choice”
  • Frederick L. Whitam, PhD, Professor in the Department of Sociology at Arizona State University, said, “During the past 30 years, a strong body of evidence has emerged to suggest that sexual orientation is biological. During this same time period, not a single bit of scientific evidence suggests that sexual orientation is learned has appeared.”
  • The Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance stated, “We recommend following the lead of most physical and mental health professionals, and consider homosexual orientation to be normal, natural, unchosen and fixed.
  • Kenneth M. Cohen, PhD, Lecturer in Human Development at Cornell University, wrote, “Recent scans of the human genome reveal that some gay males share a genetic marker for homosexuality on the X chromosome. One avenue through which genes regulate homoeroticism is by instructing the brain to develop in a sex-atypical manner.”

The argument from nature includes those who view homosexuality as aberrant or sinful and reject any scientific biological influences for homosexuality. These people view sexuality as something that can be changed, altered or suppressed. This has led to the advent of “gay rehabilitation programs” which science has debunked due to the devastating tolls these programs take on LGBT individuals.  These rehabilitation programs have resulted in some horrific “treatments” which include aversion therapy, whereby gay men are shown pictures of naked men and simultaneously shocked with electricity; brain surgery in the form of frontal lobotomies; castration; intravenous infusion of animal-organ extracts, cocaine, estrogen and testosterone; gay men being forced to masturbate and then shown pictures of women just before orgasm and a host of other horrific and experimental invasions.  In pre-aparthied South Africa homosexual men who could not be “cured” were chemically castrated or given sex change operations which resulted in an extreme rate of fatalities.

In Uganda, there is an Anti-Homosexuality Bill on the table that would introduce the death penalty for homosexuals, those who have previous convictions and those who are HIV positive. In fact, it provides the same penalty for Ugandan Nationals who engage in homosexual relations outside of Uganda, asserting that they may be extradited back to Uganda for punishment. There are even provisions for punishment in this bill for companies, media organizations, or entities that support LBGT rights.

This bill is borne out of Fundamental Christianity. Scott Lively and Rick Warren have a history of missionary involvement in Uganda and these two individuals, along with other Christian Fundamentalists, were influential in the shaping of public policy in Uganda.  Richard A. Cohen, a Christian “conversion therapist” stated in his book the grossly untrue and damaging slander that up to forty-percent of homosexuals are directly linked to child molestationThis book given to  prominent Ugandans.

According to FBI hate crime statistics, there were 7,163 reported hate crimes in 2005. 14.2% of which were based on sexual orientation. Most were violent in nature. In the U.S., 75% of students have no state laws to protect them from harassment and discrimination in school based on their sexual orientation. In public high schools, 97% of students report regularly hearing homophobic remarks from their peers.

And the beat goes on…

For more than twenty-five years, mental health practitioners and researchers have recognized that homosexuality is not a mental illness. Moreover, they are highly critical of attempts to change sexual orientation. These professional associations include the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the National Association of School Psychologists and the National Association of Social Workers.  These are not fringe groups. They represent roughly a half-million health and mental health professionals who support the fact that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus, there is no need for a cure.  Furthermore, the American Psychiatric Association rejected reparative therapy as not only ineffective, but potentially destructive.  The risks include depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior.

The argument of sexual orientation from nature or nurture needs to remain within the bounds of science.  Including religious tenets, doctrines and dogmas only furthers to incite further discrimination against homosexuals, including physical attacks that often result in murder.  The ridiculous notion that homosexuality can be cured through reparative therapy is not based on science, but religious dogma.  The reported success rates of the conversion of  homosexuals to heterosexual orientation proves false under close scrutiny.  These reports are from an ideological perspective on sexual orientation, not from the scientific perspective of genetics, biology and real mental health researchers. It does more harm than good and any attempt at sexual orientation conversion should be ethically questioned.

Homosexuals deserve unreserved participation in all aspects of American life and discrimination of any kind against our homosexual neighbors need to be relegated to the same status as racial discrimination, and not just on paper.  Religious doctrines that spew hatred and intolerance toward homosexuality should be treated just as those doctrines that advocate slavery and the belief that black people are an inferior people group.  Those who openly preach for the denigration and biblical murder of homosexuals should be arrested and imprisoned.

To any Christians or Muslims reading this:  Everything you have been taught about homosexuals by your religious leaders and your doctrines is wrong.   Period.  End of story.

  58 comments for “All homosexuals should be castrated – Rev. Billy Graham

  1. Steven
    May 7, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    You quote science as if evidence matters to these people.

  2. Claudia D.
    May 7, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    I’m not gay, but I’m very sensitive to the rights of homosexuals because of what happened to my brother after somebody outed him. Talk about a nightmare situation.

    Oftentimes the best way to deal with ignorant hate peddled by Graham and others is just to ignore it though. By protesting the God Hates Fags crowd you’re just giving them a bigger platform. Endure them in silence and they’re nothing.

    (Note to Claudia: I removed the link you provided because WordPress tagged your reply as spam. -AL)

  3. chimera
    May 7, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    It’s not fair to say that all Christians are taught that homosexuality is wrong, let alone that it all the things people like Falwell and Robertson have said. I know that these are pervasive attitudes, but growing up Catholic in the 1960s and 1970s with devout parents, I remembering talking openly about Sgt. Leonard Matlovich and whether he could serve in the military (my parents thought yes) and watching with my parents a movie about two gay men with Martin Sheen and Hal Holbrook. In the 1960s and 70s I was not exposed to this kind of hate coming from religious groups. We had lesbian neighbors that we visited. I am not denying that churches are responsible for some serious psychological abuse and torment of gay people. I am saying that Christianity is not monolithic, that there are gay Christians and that there are people in the Christian faith who love and respect gay people.

    • May 7, 2010 at 8:15 pm

      Chimera,

      I beg to differ. All Christians ARE taught that homosexuality is wrong, unless they do not believe their own holy book. If that is the case, then they are not Christians.

      -Al

      • July 16, 2011 at 1:06 pm

        Hi there Al,
        What you are speaking of is a Western faith based culture, not objective scriptural teaching. Throughout history people have projected their own cultural values onto their sacred texts, from a heliocentric universe to ethnic inequalities. Often these principles are only ambiguously supported by a sacred text, but are granted credibility within the faith based community by presupposition and the resultant creative interpretation of the text.
        As with many things, the Bible is not nearly so straight forward on the topic of homosexuality. The idea that the Bible has somehow miraculously survived and maintained its integrity for thousands of years, translated from three extremely context sensitive and oft misunderstood languages, and through the hands of some of the most historically power hungry and ethically dubious individuals and organizations is ridiculous.
        The first dictate regarding homosexuality appears in Leviticus alongside many edicts that would result in criminal prosecution if practiced today in any part of the developed world. Levitical law in general has been rejected by most modern Christians as having been nullified by the death of Jesus.
        Later, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah has been touted as a cautionary tale against homosexuality. If you actually read the story, you will see that the people of these two cities were in the habit of raping and murdering many outsiders should they venture into the city. One would have to presuppose that homosexuality was not only wrong, but worse than rape and murder (a thoroughly un-biblical idea) to think that the cities were destroyed over homosexuality rather than murderous behavior.
        After this, homosexuality is not mentioned at all until Paul broaches the subject in Romans. Paul does not claim to speak for God, but only makes his own rather eccentric social commentary, as is often pointed out by Christians when it is mentioned that Paul also states that none should be married, and the practice should only be admitted if to keep men from giving in to their lusts. Paul was very fond of making up words. The word translated as “homosexual” in Romans and again in Revelations is Arsenokoitai. Paul never bothers to provide a definition for this word, but the root words are man and bed. There was already a greek word for homosexuality as Paul would have understood it; “Pedaeraste.” Had Paul intended to condemn homosexuality, there would have been no reason to make up a word in lieu of pedaeraste. He was clearly referring to an entirely different concept. Given the context of the passage, it is much more likely he was speaking of pagan temple prostitution.
        Given the ambiguity of scripture, it seems much more likely that Biblical prohibitions of homosexuality are the result of Western biases in translation and interpretation more than actual Biblical precepts. To add to the ambiguity, homosexuality was not even considered as an offense and was even the subject of debate as to whether homosexual relations constituted a breach of clerical vows of chastity until the first council of Nicaea.
        The Christian faith is a very fractured ideology, from Catholicism to the Amish to Restorationism. Many of these fragments of faith culture have revised their interpretation of the text as holding to current interpretations becomes unsustainable. The Episcopalian, Lutheran, and Unitarian branches have not only offered marriage ceremonies to same sex couples, but also allowed homosexual clergy. Many other denominations including the extremist evangelical sects have become more accepting, and even supportive of homosexuals as a new generation gains influence and precious ideology begins to conflict with reality.
        I grew up Christian and went through and barely survived the reparation therapy you mentioned as a teenager. Believe me, I have no love of religious dogma. I have since met many religious communities, however, who have acted with compassion and true empathy toward the plight of homosexuals. The word Christian means “Little Christ.” In my opinion, those who hold their faith, but not to the exclusion of reason are the true “little Christs.”

      • Hillary
        January 25, 2012 at 2:45 pm

        Jesus said in Mathew 19:4 that marriage is a woman and a man.

        Believe the Bible or don’t. The choice is yours.

    • eddie
      December 8, 2010 at 7:33 am

      What you are saying is absolutely appalling and sad.
      Why can’t we keep a middle line? We love the sinner. BUT we hate sin. That is the Bible teaching.
      About gay- Christians – that is a self-contradictory term. There is NO such thing.
      We need to accept that we are sinners before being accepted by the Lord.
      If we concur to living in sin, then well, that is not going to bring us no life with the Lord. That’s that.
      Loving gay people is one thing, respecting what they are doing is a totally different thing.
      We need to understand that they are under a strong addiction like drugs or alcohol.
      I think if they would be aware and admitting that this is a sin, then true Christians could pray for them to be released. Otherwise read the last pages of the Bible. I didn’t write it.
      About the so-called hi-tech shrinks, well I wouldn’t say they don’t have their own opinions or they have been bribed to say it’s biological.
      GOd created a man and a woman. It feels logical, if He then asked them to multiply.
      I have lived in a communist country – and what do you think, I haven’t even heard anything about gay stuff.
      As the communism fell (praise the Lord) all capitalist came into the country including this biological design that appears when some groups have an intention. But if one doesn’t even realize how ugly, hateful is this disease, wow, he hasn’t been born again yet.
      Bless you,
      E.

      • December 8, 2010 at 10:04 am

        Why can’t we keep a middle line? Because hatred has no place with respect to someone’s genetic makeup. It is people who hold your line of reasoning who hate black people for the sole reason of the color of their skin. It is bigoted and discriminatory, which is par for the course for the mind virus known as Christianity. Your bible teaches trash, and if someone chooses to follow the teachings of Christ and all that goes with it, AND is homosexual, then they are homosexual Christians. Just saying it is not so does not make it go away.

        If you choose to self-degrade and then put your trust and faith in a mythical, non-existent fairy tale, that is your choice. Don’t make it for anyone else. Sexual orientation is not an addiction. You are being a complete fucking idiot. Your imaginary god created nothing, but was, in fact, created by ancient, bronze-aged men who were searching for answers to things that there was no available knowledge for.

        Get a grip on yourself, you are living a lie.

      • Steve White
        March 4, 2012 at 3:15 am

        “About gay- Christians – that is a self-contradictory term. There is NO such thing.
        We need to accept that we are sinners before being accepted by the Lord.”

        What about alcoholic Christians, Christians who smoke, Christians who are fat and don’t excercise(gluttons)… Can we change their behavior by “praying for their sin to be released.” It seems that fundamentalist Christianity picks and chooses the “sins” that are the most important to go after. So I guess every fat-ass churchgoer who doesn’t change any of their evil ways is going to burn in hell for all eternity according to the ridiculous dogma that you subscribe to.

        “That’s that.”

      • Steve White
        March 4, 2012 at 3:30 am

        Proverbs 23:2 proclaims, “Put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony.”

        Then you have to committ suicide for being fat.

        Deuteronomy 22:23-24
        23If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death–the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

        Oh, and according to the Bible you have the right to murder your unfaithfull wife and her secret lover.

  4. thegman
    May 7, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Let’s get this straight. As a Christian…I think homosexuality is wrong..do I hate them? No. Do I have homosexual friends? Yes. Do I stuff the bible down their throats? Nope. A friend is a friend because of how they act towards me – not their sexual orientation.

    That being said…Billy Graham NEVER said these words. On the contrary, when asked to “stand” against homosexuals and speak out against them – he refused. Yes there are plenty crazy leader fundies out there, but he is NOT one of them. Please don’t lump all Christians into one stereotype or group. AND PLEASE try to be accurate especially when speaking about someone like Billy Graham.

    • May 7, 2010 at 8:14 pm

      Thegman,

      The problem starts with the first part of your elliptically-challenged question: As a Christian…I think homosexuality is wrong.

      Everything that radiates from that statement is bigoted and hateful. You may not be a hateful person. In fact, you are probably a nice person. That does not take from the fact that your religion teaches that homosexuality is an abomination to your god. It teaches that homosexuals should be killed. If you do not think so, then you do not know your bible.

      Christianity, as with all revealed religions, is poison to humanity. Those who believe, while they might be perfectly nice people and even be otherwise intelligent, are infected with a memetic mind virus and are suffering from delusion.

      The only difference between the nominal believer and the crazy leader fundies is that the latter exhibit psychotic behavior.

      So, if you will pardon me, I will, indeed, lump all Christians together. If you have homosexual friends, do them a favor. Either unfriend them or abandon your faith. Those are really the only two choices you have.

      As far as Billy Graham goes, if you think he is so great, then your blinders are riveted to the side of your head, thus I will not expound on his points of view and hypocrisy.

      Have a nice day…

      -Al

      • thegman
        May 7, 2010 at 8:17 pm

        Yes..you can disagree all you want on my feelings/stance on homosexuals and even Christians and homosexuals. But PLEASE don’t try to cop out and cover your mistake by claiming that Billy Graham said anything even remotely close to this. You CAN’T expound on his points of view and hypocrisy because they aren’t there.

        If you’re going to rant and rail against Christians or even Billy Graham – then at least don’t be a hypocrite yourself and make up lies to spread the hate.

  5. MAKS61
    May 7, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Here is a web page that references that indeed, Billy Graham DID say the quote. However, he later apologized.
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/homquote.htm

    • thegman
      May 7, 2010 at 9:39 pm

      Actually, if you look at the reference – it’s from Chick publications NOT as an article but some SUPPOSED “email.” A mysterious email that cannot be reproduced. Also if you read Chick’s stuff – he actually rants AGAINST Graham for his stance on homosexuality.

      Even if that isn’t enough for you…everyone knows that is pretty weirdo/nutso.

      • thegman
        May 7, 2010 at 9:40 pm

        sorry.. everyone knows that Chick is pretty weirdo/nutso.

    • thegman
      May 7, 2010 at 9:45 pm

      http://www.chick.com/reading/books/153/153_08.asp

      Chick says this about Graham and homosexuals.
      ” I was told that when Anita Bryant spoke out against homosexuals and asked for Billy’s support, he turned her down. He played it cool. Anita Bryant took the heat and was persecuted for her stand, but not Billy. He was loved by the world for his position.”

      He later rants against Graham saying “In the beginning, Billy Graham was greatly used of God, but I believe Billy gave in to tremendous pressures and compromised. And he is now walking hand in hand with the whore of Revelation.”

  6. May 7, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Thank You, Mak. I had that in my source list which is a terrible mess and could not for the life of me find the link.

    Here’s the thing about apologies. Coming from someone who has a deep seated belief that the bible is the inerrant word of god, I cannot believe that his apology was more because he got caught than what he actually said.

    As a former Southern Baptist Pastor, I have a good knowledge about crocodile apologies.

    Al

    • thegman
      May 7, 2010 at 9:39 pm

      Nope try again…look at my response above.

  7. MAKS61
    May 7, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    I agree, Al. More than likely, he only apologized or took it back because he was forced to by someone… Their sanctimonious hypocrisy is amazing at times.

    At the “Nope, try again comment…” Just because you don’t agree with the source doesn’t invalidate it. Just my opinion.

    • thegman
      May 7, 2010 at 9:53 pm

      If it was a reliable source and not something someone typed up then maybe. Please point to the actual source. Or is the need for legitimate reference not enough for you? Wait hold on how about this:

      MAK61 “I love Christianity and Jesus, I renounce everything I have done.” Email from CHICK publications

      I think you get my point. Just because a source is “there” but not even shown in entirety does not validate it. In any intellectual circle..that’s a pretty lame attempt at supporting your claim.

    • thegman
      May 7, 2010 at 9:57 pm

      I would think that reason and logic would be the foundation for skeptics. Trying to build support on the shaky foundation for a “supposed” quote is illogical.

      Don’t you think that if he actually said this..there would be quote ALL over the place in liberal/anti-Christian publications all over the net. There isn’t..how interesting.

      But I guess it’s easier to make up lies than actually use logic and truth to support your arguments.

  8. MAKS61
    May 7, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    At “thegman,” don’t ever use me nor my profile name to make your point. I don’t see where you validate your comments but yet I do not disparage you.
    Thank about that – from the lame attempt category at the very least, you’ve proved my point about the hypocrisy. Thanks!

    • thegman
      May 7, 2010 at 10:05 pm

      Wow. So because you can’t refute a logical argument you get angry? It’s fine to not win an argument or be able to logically or substantially support something (happens to me all the time),but please don’t act the hypocrite and hide your head in the sand and pretend that you were fine.

  9. MAKS61
    May 7, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    I never said I was angry – I respectfully told you not to use my information when trying to inconsistently make your own argument. Use your own information. Besides, you should be careful, as you can get hurt jumping, especially to conclusions.

    • thegman
      May 7, 2010 at 10:13 pm

      Lol what inconsistencies are there in my argument? You have yet to point them out. And I think you totally missed the point of my using your “information.” Let me explain.

      ANYONE can attribute a person to a quote. Now unless that quote can be referenced from a respectable and RELIABLE source (not just internet word of mouth) then that quote is in question. Your “reference” is one of these questionable sources. But you don’t address that. You don’t go into logical discourse or debate. You are in essence presenting a strawman for your argument. That was my point. Sorry you didn’t get that.

  10. MAKS61
    May 7, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    I didn’t miss any point you made – I just asked that you not use me to make it. However, it’s funny that you have to use that same source you invalidated to make your point. Ahhh, life’s little ironies.

  11. thegman
    May 7, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    LOLOL, yes it was very intentional – my using that source was the whole point. The irony is on you my friend. Yet even with THIS current reply, you still have not refuted my logic. So now I realize that you don’t reply because you can’t. By your lack of response, you have shown that your “logic” and argument is flawed but you are too proud and arrogant to admit. All of your subsequent responses have simply been slight Ad Hominem fallacies with a mix of the strawman fallacy.

    But I think anyone with a sense of logic and reason can simply see that you don’t really know why you believe what you do. You simply blindly follow it and throw logic and reason aside.

    Sadly, I cannot reason anymore (actually… at all) with someone who buries their head in the sand or sticks their fingers in their ears and yells ” I’m not listening!!” when it comes to logic – it’s a pointless exercise in futility. Unfortunately, I have to lump you in the group of crazy fundamentalists that do the same. You are of different name, same nature. See ya later!

  12. MAKS61
    May 7, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    I don’t waste arguments on people who are already too closed minded to recognize them.

    • cat's eye
      March 16, 2012 at 3:53 pm

      Mak – All this because you posted a false link. The link that supposedly referenced a quote by Rev. Graham. However, when all the readers try the link and read the quotes, NOT ONE IS BY REV. GRAHAM. Snake is right, everyone who tries the link will know you are a fake.

      snake – you may be right about thegman being smug, but that’s what happens when people post false links, then try to bravado through their mistake. Thegman had a right to chew them up, and you know it.

  13. snakekilla3
    May 7, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    @ thegman : you maybe have won the “argument” but to b honest you sound like a total smug douche.

    @ mak61. Dude just stop it. It’s embarassing. You are making a fool out of yourself and making atheists look bad. Stop acting like u did something and you won’t end up being another smug douche.

  14. May 8, 2010 at 12:46 am

    THIS WAS NOT A LINK!!! HOW DARE YOU???

    I HATE NETWORKED BLOGS!!!!

    • May 8, 2010 at 5:54 am

      Goran, I have no clue what you are talking about.

  15. Sandman67
    May 9, 2010 at 5:55 am

    Hi Al

    your arguments are also powerful ammunition that can be used against any organiser religion, as it is only through the mechanism of doctrine that nature becomes “sinful”.

    This in turn breeds fire and brimstone hypocrites like the most recent gay basher caught with a rent boy in Miami. Oh how that must warm the cockles of your heart… I choked on my morning coffee I laughed so hard.

    Take a normal homosexually orientated human.

    Fill full of fear and self loathing through bigoted religious doctrine.

    A) Add a shiny suit, a piano keyboard smile, and a big black bible to ram down some succeptible ill educated mugs throats. Get them to fund your hate campaign, and the occasional wild weekend with rent boys and drugs that your organisation covers up for you. Give access to corridors of power and protect his hatred with a Constitution….

    B) Add robebes, beard and turban and an insane gleam to the eye. Supply with hate crime dressed up as faith and enshrined in a Quran. Ram this down some mindwashed psychopaths throat via the internet and speakers on every corner…

    C) Dress in a black suit, add insane faith beliefs including that the Garden of Eden was in Missouri or that we are all infected with space ghosts – and a massive untaxed budget. Buy up social groups and politicians, then spread quiet hatred through unfair laws or private social progroms…..

    see what I mean?

    • May 9, 2010 at 1:30 pm

      Sandman,

      You have an excellent viewpoint. Thank you for taking the time to post it here.

      -AL

  16. skepticat
    May 12, 2010 at 4:56 am

    From chimera: “It’s not fair to say that all Christians are taught that homosexuality is wrong”

    From @thegman: “Please don’t lump all Christians into one stereotype or group.”

    Those are slippery slopes!

    Is IS fair to say that all Christians were taught homosexuality is wrong. If they weren’t taught that, they wouldn’t be a Christian. Christians believes that it’s wrong. If you don’t believe it’s wrong then you’re not a Christian.

    If you call yourself a Christian, then inherently you ascribe to their beliefs and Bible doctrine. That Doctrine, the word of god, says that homosexuals are an abomination, bound for eternal punishment.

    It doesn’t matter how you *feel* about your lesbian neighbor or your nice gay friend, god says they’re vile, wretches.

    And these Christians that you reject like Jack Chick and Pat Robertson? As a Christian, you stand with them, you condone their bigotry, you approve of their hate.

    Why do you hate Chick? He’s spreading God’s word by distributing stories & scripture from the Bible.

    • skepticat
      May 12, 2010 at 4:59 am

      It’s not a stereotype when it’s true.

  17. Sandman
    May 14, 2010 at 7:40 am

    I ask this not in an insulting way, because I know how precious you Americans are about your Constitution, but as a Brit who comes from a land where we dont have such a thing as the 1st Ammendment.

    Could someone please explain to me why this is a good thing if, as is apparent, it gives scum, bigots, haters, bible bashers and cross burners the right to publicly mouth filth like this on every channel of TV and radio, and from every pulpit and street corner.

    What is the point of your precious Constitution when shabby bastards like the Westboro lot or Revolution Islam turn it into a piss stained rag that is dragged through the mud every single day?

    Personally I prefer my own madhouse country’s approach: Free speech is protected by our own constitutional law (including The Magna Carta and Bill of Rights 1689). However, that right is moderated by modern hate crime laws that make saying shit like “homosexuals are evil perverts” a crime – say it in public or on TV and you can expect to win a free 5 year holiday in one of Her Majesty’s Hotels.

    Freedoms are wonderful things, but utterly pointless when abused by bigots.

    So next time one of you over there gets all preachy about your Constitutional rights best make sure Im not close….my sarcastic laughter will drown you out.

    Shame on you for letting Falwell and his ilk wipe their arses on your Constitution. Shame on you all.

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  19. implicaverse
    December 23, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    Even if homosexual behavior was learned, don’t homosexuals have the right to practice it without oppression?

    The perhaps subconscious insinuation of the inherited-characteristic argument is that if two gay men have a loving relationship, they are nonetheless being forced to accept a lesser state of existence because of their ‘affliction.’ Now, I’m not gay, but if I was, I think I’d find that condescendingly offensive.

    Moreover, modern science may soon have the capability to genetically alter inherited characteristics. The ‘can’t help themselves’ argument plays into the hands of religious fanatics who will want to use this power to force gays to receive gene therapy to acquire ‘straight genes.’

    Furthermore, the basis of religious intolerance is precisely that ‘certain people are made that way’ and incapable of reform. For example, in the eyes of a fanatical christian, it is right that gays be burned in hell forever in punishment for their sins, because after all they are incapable of repentance.

    The bottom line is that the non-religionist argument on tolerance of gays should be: (1) Your god doesn’t exist so don’t go making us jump through his hoops, and (2) they’re not hurting anyone, so they should be allowed to do whatever they want.

    I’m concerned that defending gay rights on the basis of genetic predisposition will backfire. Let’s defend gay rights for the right reason, which is, “It’s not wrong, so get over it.” Indeed, if having gay sex makes gays happier without hurting anyone, then it is in fact the right thing to do.

  20. franko
    March 26, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    all lesbians should be castrated. they are making it harder for us normal men to meet the right woman out there. i consider myself a good looking guy and i am having a hard time finding the right woman to meet and have a life to share with each other.if i see a woman that i like i would try to talk to her but they are very nasty and walk away from me. that is why they should be castrated.

    • November 10, 2011 at 11:30 am

      It’s difficult for me to know if you’re being serious or not. Females can’t be castrated – it’s physically impossible to remove their testicles, since they have none. They can be sterilized, but not castrated. Blaming lesbians for your inability to find a spouse suggests to me that you need some counseling.

      • how right
        December 31, 2011 at 3:22 pm

        as a straight man that would like very much to meet the right woman for me today, i would have to say that the lesbians are certainly to blame. i myself, meet women that are very nasty today along with their no good attitude. why is that? not my fault that they changed. i would like to meet a good straight one, is that too much to ask for?

  21. Gregg Randles
    April 11, 2011 at 8:27 am

    Why pick on Christians? Are you too afraid to slander Muslims? Gays are hanged in Muslim lands. Even Uganda is still considering a law that would execute all gays and lesbians.

    Christians are an easy target. Go pick on the real enemy, the 7th century Islamists who are pouring into our nations with multiple wives and a pretty bad attitude towards we ‘kaffurs.’

    • April 11, 2011 at 11:19 am

      Gregg,

      I am an equal opportunity polemic. There are several posts in this blog that address Islam. I also have an entire chapter on radical Islam in my book.

      -Al

    • November 10, 2011 at 11:26 am

      Because picking on Christians addresses the vast majority of the anti-homosexual polemics that appear in this country.

  22. franko
    April 12, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    i agree that all the lesbians out there should die. we have enough problems in the world now.they are making it worse for us. there are a lot of good men like me out there that would like to find a good woman to be with. trying to find a good woman out there is very very hard today.when i see a woman that i like i will try to start a conversation with her. they are very nasty to me and walk away from me. it makes me feel bad when i know i am trying to meet one.

  23. frankp
    May 1, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    the lesbians that are out there today were mentally abused as a child. they are programed to hate men today. they are very sick mentally disturbed people and need medical attention today.to me they are just pigs.it is very much there fault why good men like me are single today.they only can do what they do best today and that is eating fish.and plenty of it.

  24. Jeremy
    May 12, 2011 at 12:01 am

    I am a christian male who loves God and gave my life to Him at a very young age. Growing up, I noticed that something wasn’t quite right..instead of being attracted to the opposite sex, I was actually had an opposite reaction. For 36 years, I lived in denial thinking that maybe I was asexual while denying my attraction to other males. I thought, I can’t be gay because being gay was a choice and I didn’t not chose that for myself. I lived alone never sharing love with another person, until I happened to meet a man that I consider to be my soul mate. The last year has been the happiest time of my life and I continue to love and praise God. It saddens me that gay and lesbian people are pushed away from God by His children. He does not push me away and He continues to bless me.

    • Dee Harris
      November 18, 2011 at 12:49 pm

      Praise God you found your soul mate!!! Never let anyone make you believe that you are goin to Hell because you were born this way. God loves you jst the way you are!!! He knows your heart and that’s all; that matters. I have a 28 yr old nice looking gay son. I know for a fact that he didnt chose to be gay!!! Why would anyone chose to be that way… when they know how prejudice people are? No one will ever make me believe that it’s a choice!!! It’s easy for people to condemn…until it happens in their family!!! My son is the best thing to ever happen to me…if he’s happy….then Im happy!!! I know i will see him in heaven one day…and that’s all that matters to me!!! His salavation is the most important thing!!!

      God Bless ya.

      D

  25. so very true.
    February 10, 2012 at 8:59 am

    the way that i look at it, just let them be.

  26. ABSOLUTELY SAYS
    June 6, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    IT IS CERTAINLY THE LESBIANS THAT ARE THE FILTHIEST LOW LIFE PIGS THAT GOD SHOULD HAVE NEVER CREATED. IT IS SO VERY SAD THAT HE CREATED SUCH FILTH LIKE THEM. THERE ARE MANY OF US STRAIGHT MEN THAT WANT TO MEET WOMEN TODAY, BUT WITH THE FILTHY GARBAGE WOMEN THAT ARE POLLUTING THE EARTH RIGHT NOW, IT DEFINITELY MAKES IT VERY BAD FOR US. GOD SHOULD DEFINITELY WIPE OUT THESE DISEASED LESBIAN PIGS TODAY, BEFORE IT GETS MUCH WORSE. AND JUST MAYBE, THEY BE SOME DECENT WOMEN LEFT TO MEET.

    • lauging at you
      December 7, 2012 at 4:14 pm

      sounds like ur just mad because even a lesbian turns you down

  27. ad roy
    October 27, 2012 at 8:45 am

    Castration for homo’s is the solution they must be castrated they make the world worse.

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